Authentic Butchery (warning - graphic!)
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- Kate Tiler
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Authentic Butchery (warning - graphic!)
Whilst looking for Danish Iron age kilns (as you do) I came across this excellent Iron Age site in Denmark, it has some great projects that they run with the visitors and every Autumn in October they have a series on butchery - this picture intrigued me and puts our 'look children! a dead cockerel!' authentic butchery to shame - I wonder if we tried something like this we'd get a similar crowd of fascinated children?
Made me wonder what else was possible - evern though I'm a veggie (for various, mostly animal welfare reasons) I would get involved in this type of project because I think it is such a vital part of our ancestor's lives.
Anyway the website is:
http://www.english.lejre-center.dk/851.0.html
and I found the butchery picture in the 'activities' section - if anyone is planning a holiday it might be worth trying to attend one of their courses, they look fascinating!
Made me wonder what else was possible - evern though I'm a veggie (for various, mostly animal welfare reasons) I would get involved in this type of project because I think it is such a vital part of our ancestor's lives.
Anyway the website is:
http://www.english.lejre-center.dk/851.0.html
and I found the butchery picture in the 'activities' section - if anyone is planning a holiday it might be worth trying to attend one of their courses, they look fascinating!
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Kate,
from personal experience it depends on what the animal is!
If it was cute and cuddly when alive then it's as popular as Paul Hogans rattlesnake in a lucky dip.
Bigger animals like sheep and cattle prove less of a problem (providing the fleece is off it would appear)
from personal experience it depends on what the animal is!
If it was cute and cuddly when alive then it's as popular as Paul Hogans rattlesnake in a lucky dip.
Bigger animals like sheep and cattle prove less of a problem (providing the fleece is off it would appear)
Now there's two kinds of wet in my pants!
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Cor Thanks Kate.
I want to live in Denmark.
I can also see at least one little kid who will be a vegetarian by now, look along to the left and the kid hiding his face...carrot muncher for sure.
I want to live in Denmark.
I can also see at least one little kid who will be a vegetarian by now, look along to the left and the kid hiding his face...carrot muncher for sure.
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and the great thing with the culinary 'cut 'n shut' is you get to make 2 of them.craig1459 wrote:In the Lutterell Psalter there's a (cockatrice?) being prepared which is two animals put together - one of which looks like a dog
Haven't got any images of the cooked results i'm afraid
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OMG what have I started!!!!????
This wasn't meant to be competative butchery!!!!
If Pheobe sees this she'll kill me
And that pig headed chicken has to be the vilest scariest looking thing I've seen in a loooong time - defo one for recruiting Vegans!!!
This wasn't meant to be competative butchery!!!!
If Pheobe sees this she'll kill me

And that pig headed chicken has to be the vilest scariest looking thing I've seen in a loooong time - defo one for recruiting Vegans!!!
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Yay the first true turkey ham.
I remember the trouble we had trying to convince an american tourist that you'd made Tig (Thats the turkeypig not the pigturkey Purkey...he was evil and escaped before being cooked and is probably still at large scampering round Surrey somewhere) but he (the tourist) wasn't having any of it and kept asking how it flew with such small wings
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I s'pose Tig could be classed as a soteltey or possibly a bleedin obvious.
Grymm
I remember the trouble we had trying to convince an american tourist that you'd made Tig (Thats the turkeypig not the pigturkey Purkey...he was evil and escaped before being cooked and is probably still at large scampering round Surrey somewhere) but he (the tourist) wasn't having any of it and kept asking how it flew with such small wings

I s'pose Tig could be classed as a soteltey or possibly a bleedin obvious.
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Err, b..b..but ... don't they see the same thing at their local butcher's shop?
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Last year, at one site we re-enacted at, the warden offered us some rabbit... we said yes, so a few minutes later (after some faint popping sounds in the distance) he came back with a brace of warm furry bunnies. We hung them up over night in a conveniant tree and prepared them the next day in frount of MoPs for dinner. The MoPs were generally very squimish / disgusted that we would consider preparing and eating something so cute / odd as rabbit... needless to say it tasted great and I even whipped the skins and tanned them later when we got home.
I would love to try something larger.... The pierce and ping nation are so bemused and even frightened by the reality of food, yet it is a normal and vital part of history. (It is even now, it's just hidden and shrink wrapped.)
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I would love to try something larger.... The pierce and ping nation are so bemused and even frightened by the reality of food, yet it is a normal and vital part of history. (It is even now, it's just hidden and shrink wrapped.)
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well those pics are impressive! I hope I shall be seeing lots of this at events this summer?
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Really interesting thread - reminds me of my dissertation, actually! For those who remember the Dead-Bambi Project, you'll know exactly what I mean. For those who don't, or weren't around (on the old site) 2 years ago, my undergrad dissertation was based around the 'unmaking' of a deer, as described in medieval literature (I used von Strasburg's 'Tristan', as it had a really clear description of the process). I then ate the edible bits, de-fleshed the bones, and finally compared the butchery marks on 'my' bones with those found at high-status archaeological sites from the period, to see whether the literary descriptions actually reflected reality, or were purely flights of fancy. We found quite a strong correlation, which was really good...
Anyway, we're thinking about doing it again at shows this year (it would be such a shame to waste all that research), and we have replica unmaking knives and everything... what do you guys think? Could we get away with doing it at shows? I planned to warn the organiser (of course), and we'd do this 'recreation of medieval high-status butchery' as part of our living history activities.
I'd be grateful for any thoughts.
Meg
Anyway, we're thinking about doing it again at shows this year (it would be such a shame to waste all that research), and we have replica unmaking knives and everything... what do you guys think? Could we get away with doing it at shows? I planned to warn the organiser (of course), and we'd do this 'recreation of medieval high-status butchery' as part of our living history activities.
I'd be grateful for any thoughts.
Meg
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I remember Bambi! Hi Meg
It was fascinating - being able to look over your shoulder while the project progressed!
You could try the nice man who sell tools/knives etc called Eceniron - he even has a complete chefs set of knives that he makes - his contact details are on http://livinghistoryfayres.com/index_files/Page390.html
I think it would be a very interesting display and you could link with a couple of the other re-enactment groups to make sure it all gets eaten!
sorry just re-read you post - you already have the tools!

You could try the nice man who sell tools/knives etc called Eceniron - he even has a complete chefs set of knives that he makes - his contact details are on http://livinghistoryfayres.com/index_files/Page390.html
I think it would be a very interesting display and you could link with a couple of the other re-enactment groups to make sure it all gets eaten!
sorry just re-read you post - you already have the tools!
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