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Okay, as we have a specialised section I'm hoping that those in the know will see this and might be able to help me.

I play Scottish Highland Warpipes (please don't hold my 'weapon of mass destruction' against me) and when I first started re-enacting I was told the practice chanter for the pipes is similar to a medieval instrument. Hearing this I started on a quest to find music for said instrument, and I'm having no luck.

As my musical skills do not stretch to being able to make my own arrangements of pieces I can't look at something and adjust it for the number of holes on a practice chanter (for those who don't know it goes from A to A, and has eight holes).

Is there anybody out there who could give me advise, or tell me where I could get some help.
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The bagpipe chanter sounds similar to a bombarde or shawm but these have 7 holes not 8. My bombarde is in B flat, so I can play easy clarinet pieces on it .
Try contacting Helen Chambers at Busy Mole Harps she might be able to help you out

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Thanks for that, I'll do some more looking again.

At the moment I am just using tunes that I know that mostly aren't easily recognisable as Scottish pipe tunes (so no 'Scotland the Brave'), but they still sound like pipe tunes to me!!!
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Something I've always wondered and someone on here will probably help me out (No not the door -)

Is a harmonica classed as a wind instrument?
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You are getting confused!

Wind instruments are part of an orchestra. The woodwind section is flute, oboe, clarinet, and bassoon.

I don't think there has been any orchestral music written for the harmonica. Well I hope not!

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Sorry to disappoint you, Jenn:

The harmonica is indeed a wind instrument. The classification goes like this:
-> Aerophones (Wind Instruments)
- -> Free Aerophones (pitch not determined by pipe length)
- - -> Free-Reed Instruments (reeds vibrate freely without striking anything)
- - - -> Framed Reed
- - - - -> Mouth Blown
- - - - - -> e.g. Harmonica

See http://www.ksanti.net/free-reed/descrip ... onomy.html for details to the classification of this and other instruments.

Orchestral music for the harmonica does exist - see e.g.
http://www.ksanti.net/free-reed/reviews/littera.html
http://home.netvigator.com/~cblau/khq/newworks.html
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q= ... a+concerto
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I stand corrected!! Thanks for that, I never realised there was orchestral music for the harmonica!

You learn something every day! Cheers mate! :D

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Nope, I'm taking this season mostly off, since I had a shoulder operation in June and still can't use my arm fully. (I.e. no archery, no lifiting, no putting up tent...)
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I have vague memories of someone (Gershwin?) writing a classical piece for Larry Adler, many years ago. Can someone correct me if I'm wrong? I also seem to remember him playing a classical concert with Andre Previn - again many years ago?

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[color=olive]Yes, I also remember that Larry Adler thing. Very good it was too. But then I have just spent the weekend at a music and dance festival that turned out to be all disco dancing and the music ?? .........[/color]

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Would that be "Summertime"? I think that was done on the harmonica

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No, it was something written specially for Larry Adler - "Summertime" was a solo soprano lullaby from "Porgy and Bess" originally.

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The museum of musical instruments in Vienna is a must-see for anyone who goes there. The fine selection of instruments from all periods is supported by an excellent audio tour which includes sample pieces where appropriate.

I don't recall if there was any harmonica, but the most surreal was a concerto for Jew's Harp
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craig1459 wrote:I don't recall if there was any harmonica, but the most surreal was a concerto for Jew's Harp


Didn't Entwhistle (sp?) or someone similar about ten years ago do a concerto for 27 electric guitars and a bath tub?

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Would you class Jorge as a wind instrument then?
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I would like to learn the bagpipes as I have aquired some and was wondering if a practice chanter is the best way to start?

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Steve Stocker wrote:Would you class Jorge as a wind instrument then?
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Sir Fletcher may be a string player but he is definately a wind instrument!!!!!!

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Wayland2002 wrote:
Steve Stocker wrote:Would you class Jorge as a wind instrument then?
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Sir Fletcher may be a string player but he is definately a wind instrument!!!!!!


More of a weapon than an instrument :lol:
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Yes, his early morning alarm call is legendry

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I've been scarred for life because of exposure to Jorge from such a young age!!!

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Strumpet - you could do a lot worse than starting with a copy of 'Play the Bagpipes' by Bernard Boulanger

The book is most thorough, taking you from the first puff, up to complex ornamentation in easy stages.
A cd of musical examples is included.

Details of how to obtain a copy can be found at http://www.bagpipesociety.org.uk/shop.htm

It does depend a bit on what sort of pipes you have acquired - but the bagpipe society should be able to advise.

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Wayland2002 wrote:Yes, his early morning alarm call is legendry


It's no legend, but a recorded fact! :lol:
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Several popes have tried to ban the use of "The wind of Fletcher" against christians.

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strumpet wrote:I would like to learn the bagpipes as I have aquired some and was wondering if a practice chanter is the best way to start?


Only just saw this. The answer is simple, the practice chanter is the only way to start. It's also the only way to learn your tunes!!!

I know this is a long time coming (February to October, a very long time), but are you going to be at NLHF this weekend? I'll bring along one of my practice chanters if you want. Of course you may be way ahead now!!!!

I'm sending you a PM if you do want to meet up.
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