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Some where I saw some pictures of how to make a wrapped sword belt, it may have been a few years ago but was on a site some where.
Can any one point me in the right direction?

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PM me your email address and I'll send it to you.
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Terminology check.....

By 'wrapped sword belt', do you mean one of these like wot I make?
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No the type that has a belt that wraps around the scabbard with a sort of flat knot.

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Tod wrote:No the type that has a belt that wraps around the scabbard with a sort of flat knot.
Ahh, I know the type.

hang on a mo.....

Like this?
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Yep another drink I owe you.

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I think that you can claim a drink of KIBS too, there have been a couple of us trying to work out how to tie that knot!
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You can all club together and buy me something nice....a decent bottle of Barolo perhaps?

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There was me thinking I could off load some of this Norwegian stuff I got given. Or that bottle of Grappa at the back of the cupboard.

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Tod wrote:There was me thinking I could off load some of this Norwegian stuff I got given.
If it's Aquavit then I've got a bottle in the fridge that's been there at least 4 years.
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Its got ship on the label, it crossed the equator or the like.

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As this isn't a style of belt-fixing I've seen before, could anyone give an idea of where/when it was in use? I'm quite tempted to have a go myself.

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Benedict wrote:As this isn't a style of belt-fixing I've seen before, could anyone give an idea of where/when it was in use? I'm quite tempted to have a go myself.

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Not sure what the overall period it runs through.
Definately used in the 15th C, not seen anything like it used before. Popular with Italians apparently.
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I think that it tends to be seen on longer swords, which need to be held at quite an angle.
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Medicus Matt wrote:You can all club together and buy me something nice....a decent bottle of Barolo perhaps?

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It's just occured to me that I've never knowingly met you! How can I find you to buy you a drink? Will you be at any Fed shows?
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My girlfriend refers to him as the "hobo man" from when she saw him at Torm. I think he's cut his hair now though, with the great coat all he'd have needed was the bottle of whiskey and the unhinged temperment.


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He looks something like this-
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Hi Matt

I sent you a PM a couple of days of go. Please can you confirm that you received it OK?

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Although a couple of steps in the photo's slightly unclear at the moment I really do like that solution of attatching a scabbard. Will pick up a really long belt at next event where I can find economically priced belts & have a go at it.

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I cheated when I did this (yes, yes, sorry, sorry) I recycled an old rein from a bridle and did two of these knots on my long sword. It worked very nicely though! B^D

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Carl / Sir Geoffrey wrote:Hi Matt

I sent you a PM a couple of days of go. Please can you confirm that you received it OK?

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WorkMonkey wrote:My girlfriend refers to him as the "hobo man" from when she saw him at Torm. I think he's cut his hair now though, with the great coat all he'd have needed was the bottle of whiskey and the unhinged temperment.
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It's just occured to me that I've never knowingly met you! How can I find you to buy you a drink?
I'll find YOU.

Heheheh...
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Sir Thomas, be aware that you need to use a strip of leather thinner than normal belt leather, or you'll struggle to tye the knots.

Also, IIRC, you start the strip on your belt (one of these knots), then take it down to the scabard, tye a knot like this, take it back up to your belt to form a loop and then back down to the scabard for another of these knots to suspend it at the right angle.
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Medicus Matt wrote:
I'll find YOU.

Heheheh...
Well, if you let me know which event, I'll try to have something nice handy for you to drink 8)

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Colin Middleton wrote:Sir Thomas, be aware that you need to use a strip of leather thinner than normal belt leather, or you'll struggle to tye the knots.

Also, IIRC, you start the strip on your belt (one of these knots), then take it down to the scabard, tye a knot like this, take it back up to your belt to form a loop and then back down to the scabard for another of these knots to suspend it at the right angle.
Ah... Right, okay. Think I'm getting the idea, but know I will have to see this for myself for it to become crystal clear.

Cheers Colin.

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