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Armour WOTR

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Ok, a quick question for the knowledgeable out there.

I'm reading through "The Medieval Soldier in the WOTR" by Andrew Boardman (ISBN 0750914653). On page 140 he discusses the goods of John de Vere, Earl of Oxford upon his death, these include:

"175 Sallets, 101 Brigandines, 77 pairs of splints, 16 corsets, 84 pairs of maille gussets, 18 gorgets, 24 aprons of mail, 120 halberd, 140 bills and 120 bows."

What is a corset in the context?
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A maille shirt?

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guthrie wrote:A maille shirt?
Wrong.

No seriously I've no idea but please don't guess. I can guess too all by myself.
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probabaly a back and breast palte as a set a corslett
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Would have to second the corselet answer- "back and breast" plate would fit in with the mail gussets, bevors, hats and arm harness in the same context and show difference from the brigs present too to give a consistent "half armour".
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Makes sense, thanks.
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and with the weighted argument of Messers walton an Grips who is going toa rgue ?
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For that matter, what is an "apron of mail"?
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Likely a mail skirt
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Post by behanner »

I'm not sure that is correct because in the Parliament rolls you find "in maner of werre, that is to witte, with curays, corsettes, speres, jakkes, salettes..."

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Corslet
Also spelled corselet. A light half-armour popular in the sixteenth century for general military use (for example, town guards). It consisted of a gorget, breast, back and tassets, full arms and gauntlets; the term can also be applied to the cuirass only.

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I have an impression of it being quite a general term for metal armour for the torso. They might have listed curays AND corsettes to stop people from trying to claim that it's not the one forbidden.
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