14th century armour help needed please

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14th century armour help needed please

Postby Templar Knight » Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:17 am

circa 1370 what did they wearunder the armour, as in shoes, hoes, gambeson or arming jack etc. I don't know why but I am having a real hard time finding information on what they wore. If anyone has links or pictures, if possible if anybody would like to give up some of their time even post a step by step guide of putting the armour on in picture form so i can see how everything was connected. :D

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How a man shall be armed.

Postby Stuart Quayle » Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:13 pm

Hi Templar Knight

Check out this link, it's Christian Tobler's arming sequence guide to "How a man shall be armed when he fights on foot" dated 1450, but equally suitable for 1370. In fact Christian's harness is just about perfect for your timeline anywhere between 1370 - 1390.

http://www.revivalclothing.com/index.as ... stom&ID=15

The guide is listed on the US company 'Revival Clothing' site. I use a Revival Clothing pourpoint (arming waistcoat) and gambeson (arming coat) to tie my harness onto.

You tie your plate armour legs to the bottom of the pourpoint (it is very important to tie them firmly so the legs don't drop at all or the knees of the legs will not bend properly). Your plate arms and shoulders are tied to the sleeves and shoulder of your arming jacket.

The only item that Christian is missing in his arming sequence is his Haubergeon, the half-sleeved maille shirt which goes over the top of his gambeson.

For your shopping list I would suggest:

nice pair of knight's ankle boots;

pair of single-legged hose;

pair of Braies (big baggy medieval boxer shorts) you tie your hose legs to your underpants!

linen 'St. Louis' type shirt;

Pourpoint waistcoat;

A dozen arming 'points', honey waxed braided laces which will not slip when tied, you tie your armour on using these points;

An Aketon (this is your gambeson but aketon is the proper name for this garment when the maille goes over it not under it);

Haubergeon - maille shirt which falls to about top of thigh;

Sabatons - armoured feet to go over your boots;

Greaves armoured shin and calf guards;

Cuisse & Poleyn - plate armour thigh and knee;

Breastplate - Christian is shown using a Churburg no. 13 segmented breastplate which is fine for the period, but these babies are quite rare and it might be better going for a Churburg no. 14 instead;

Spaudlers plate armour shoulders;

plate arms - as Christian is using;

Hourglass gauntlets;

Bascinet helm

Plaque belt;

Heraldic jupon surcoat (optional)

14th century sword, belt and Rondel dagger;

Heater shield

Polearm

If you need any other help please feel free to PM me :)

Pic of me in my late 14th century knight's harness attached.

regards
Stuart
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Postby Templar Knight » Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:16 pm

great guide, cheers for posting, nice armour aswell, have seen that on a website before, possibly your website if you have one :lol:


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Postby Felix » Sat Nov 08, 2008 2:48 pm

Hello Templar Knight,

Stuart already mentioned alot of important things about the kit. As I am myself in the process of getting a kit together and post some progress pics when new pieces arrive. You perhaps might take a look at my thread below.
Although I am a few decades later, you can get an idea how to start and how things change on the way. Also I just got my #14 breastplate, so you can see what the design looks like.
Take your time and do some research, getting a kit together is a long lasting process, as most pieces have to be custom made and can be quite expensive. It is first deciding what you want, then find a trusted smith, get on his waiting list and hope everything turns out fine.




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