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Postby Lady Morgan » Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:44 pm

Okay, as we have a specialised section I'm hoping that those in the know will see this and might be able to help me.

I play Scottish Highland Warpipes (please don't hold my 'weapon of mass destruction' against me) and when I first started re-enacting I was told the practice chanter for the pipes is similar to a medieval instrument. Hearing this I started on a quest to find music for said instrument, and I'm having no luck.

As my musical skills do not stretch to being able to make my own arrangements of pieces I can't look at something and adjust it for the number of holes on a practice chanter (for those who don't know it goes from A to A, and has eight holes).

Is there anybody out there who could give me advise, or tell me where I could get some help.


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Postby Wayland2002 » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:56 pm

The bagpipe chanter sounds similar to a bombarde or shawm but these have 7 holes not 8. My bombarde is in B flat, so I can play easy clarinet pieces on it .
Try contacting Helen Chambers at Busy Mole Harps she might be able to help you out



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Postby Lady Morgan » Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:36 pm

Thanks for that, I'll do some more looking again.

At the moment I am just using tunes that I know that mostly aren't easily recognisable as Scottish pipe tunes (so no 'Scotland the Brave'), but they still sound like pipe tunes to me!!!


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Postby Panzerman » Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:34 pm

Something I've always wondered and someone on here will probably help me out (No not the door -)

Is a harmonica classed as a wind instrument?


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Postby Jenn R » Sat Aug 13, 2005 7:12 am

You are getting confused!

Wind instruments are part of an orchestra. The woodwind section is flute, oboe, clarinet, and bassoon.

I don't think there has been any orchestral music written for the harmonica. Well I hope not!



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Postby Cream-T » Sat Aug 20, 2005 11:59 pm

Sorry to disappoint you, Jenn:

The harmonica is indeed a wind instrument. The classification goes like this:
-> Aerophones (Wind Instruments)
- -> Free Aerophones (pitch not determined by pipe length)
- - -> Free-Reed Instruments (reeds vibrate freely without striking anything)
- - - -> Framed Reed
- - - - -> Mouth Blown
- - - - - -> e.g. Harmonica

See http://www.ksanti.net/free-reed/descrip ... onomy.html for details to the classification of this and other instruments.

Orchestral music for the harmonica does exist - see e.g.
http://www.ksanti.net/free-reed/reviews/littera.html
http://home.netvigator.com/~cblau/khq/newworks.html
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q= ... a+concerto


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Postby Jenn R » Sun Aug 21, 2005 12:32 am

I stand corrected!! Thanks for that, I never realised there was orchestral music for the harmonica!

You learn something every day! Cheers mate! :D

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Postby Cream-T » Sun Aug 21, 2005 5:15 pm

Nope, I'm taking this season mostly off, since I had a shoulder operation in June and still can't use my arm fully. (I.e. no archery, no lifiting, no putting up tent...)


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Postby Shadowcat » Sun Aug 21, 2005 6:41 pm

I have vague memories of someone (Gershwin?) writing a classical piece for Larry Adler, many years ago. Can someone correct me if I'm wrong? I also seem to remember him playing a classical concert with Andre Previn - again many years ago?



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Postby frances » Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:41 pm

[color=olive]Yes, I also remember that Larry Adler thing. Very good it was too. But then I have just spent the weekend at a music and dance festival that turned out to be all disco dancing and the music ?? .........[/color]



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Postby Sue Green » Tue Sep 13, 2005 2:20 pm

Would that be "Summertime"? I think that was done on the harmonica



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Postby Shadowcat » Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:47 pm

No, it was something written specially for Larry Adler - "Summertime" was a solo soprano lullaby from "Porgy and Bess" originally.



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Odd classical pieces

Postby craig1459 » Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:43 am

The museum of musical instruments in Vienna is a must-see for anyone who goes there. The fine selection of instruments from all periods is supported by an excellent audio tour which includes sample pieces where appropriate.

I don't recall if there was any harmonica, but the most surreal was a concerto for Jew's Harp


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Re: Odd classical pieces

Postby histrenact » Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:01 pm

craig1459 wrote:I don't recall if there was any harmonica, but the most surreal was a concerto for Jew's Harp


Didn't Entwhistle (sp?) or someone similar about ten years ago do a concerto for 27 electric guitars and a bath tub?

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Postby Steve Stocker » Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:56 pm

Would you class Jorge as a wind instrument then?
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Postby strumpet » Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:20 pm

I would like to learn the bagpipes as I have aquired some and was wondering if a practice chanter is the best way to start?



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Postby Wayland2002 » Fri Feb 03, 2006 8:59 pm

Steve Stocker wrote:Would you class Jorge as a wind instrument then?
:)


Sir Fletcher may be a string player but he is definately a wind instrument!!!!!!



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Postby craig1459 » Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:12 pm

Wayland2002 wrote:
Steve Stocker wrote:Would you class Jorge as a wind instrument then?
:)


Sir Fletcher may be a string player but he is definately a wind instrument!!!!!!


More of a weapon than an instrument :lol:


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Postby Wayland2002 » Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:50 am

Yes, his early morning alarm call is legendry



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Postby strumpet » Sat Feb 04, 2006 11:53 am

I've been scarred for life because of exposure to Jorge from such a young age!!!



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Postby Cranky » Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:10 pm

Strumpet - you could do a lot worse than starting with a copy of 'Play the Bagpipes' by Bernard Boulanger

The book is most thorough, taking you from the first puff, up to complex ornamentation in easy stages.
A cd of musical examples is included.

Details of how to obtain a copy can be found at http://www.bagpipesociety.org.uk/shop.htm

It does depend a bit on what sort of pipes you have acquired - but the bagpipe society should be able to advise.



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Postby Sir Fletcher Phelps » Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:50 pm

Wayland2002 wrote:Yes, his early morning alarm call is legendry


It's no legend, but a recorded fact! :lol:


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Postby Sir Jarvis Phelps » Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:58 pm

As recorded in the fifteenth century Croydon Chronicle by Sir Robert Phelps


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Postby Wayland2002 » Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:16 am

Several popes have tried to ban the use of "The wind of Fletcher" against christians.



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Postby Lady Morgan » Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:32 pm

strumpet wrote:I would like to learn the bagpipes as I have aquired some and was wondering if a practice chanter is the best way to start?


Only just saw this. The answer is simple, the practice chanter is the only way to start. It's also the only way to learn your tunes!!!

I know this is a long time coming (February to October, a very long time), but are you going to be at NLHF this weekend? I'll bring along one of my practice chanters if you want. Of course you may be way ahead now!!!!

I'm sending you a PM if you do want to meet up.


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