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18th century 'folk' songs

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:19 pm
by Grania
Hi folks

I've been digging around trying to find 'folk' type (traditional) songs which are pre-1750. Has anybody got any ideas where I can find any details (and, even better, recordings)? Any tips would be greatly appreciated. I'm particularly interesting in working songs, but I don't know what my chances are....?

Re: 18th century 'folk' songs

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:54 pm
by steve stanley
Don't know how 'traditional', but I have a cassette(!) of 'Pills to purge Melancholy' which may be available on cd...broadsheet stuff,but I'm sure they were sung in taverns etc.?.....US sites like Williamsberg sell lots of music cd's for 18th cent..........

Re: 18th century 'folk' songs

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:04 pm
by busy mole
there is indeed a CD recording in fact there are two versions, also there is the book of songs and music. We stock both.

Re: 18th century 'folk' songs

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:00 am
by Grymm

Re: 18th century 'folk' songs

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:50 pm
by Grania
:) Thanks all - I will do some serious investigating

Re: 18th century 'folk' songs

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:47 am
by Foxe
From my researches (looking primarily at sea-songs) there doesn't seem to be the differentiation between 'work' songs and other songs that is partially evident later. Most of the songs I've found mentioned being sung/played on board ship pre-1750 can be found in song books like Pills to Purge (of which there are many editions) or printed as broadside ballads. Any song with a good rhythm and a chorus will do for a work song. Some of the songs from Ravenscroft's books appear in later collections, suggesting a certain amount of continuity. If you google 'Deuteromelia', 'Pammelia', and 'Melismata' in conjunction with 'Ravenscroft' you should be able to turn up some online versions. My mother learned 'Three Ravens' at school in the 60s, and 'Three Blind Mice' is in one of them IIRC, so some of them had a very long life-span.

Re: 18th century 'folk' songs

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:56 pm
by Cat
Following a slightly p*ssed but rather wonderful singing session at Avoncroft, I have managed to find the middle English lyrics to 'I had a sustre...' (modernised as 'Peri meri dixie domine'), but not the tune. I also can't find the Savile company monk-type singing bloke who I meant to swap details with (for the tune, calm down!).
So, can anybody help with either the old tune to Peri meri...or the singing monk from the Saviles? Thanks! :*

(Posted here, sorry OP because it's kinda C18th or pre, and it's not important enough to start a new thread about.)

Re: 18th century 'folk' songs

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:17 pm
by Aitken Drum
Cat wrote:Following a slightly p*ssed but rather wonderful singing session at Avoncroft, I have managed to find the middle English lyrics to 'I had a sustre...' (modernised as 'Peri meri dixie domine'), but not the tune. I also can't find the Savile company monk-type singing bloke who I meant to swap details with (for the tune, calm down!).
So, can anybody help with either the old tune to Peri meri...or the singing monk from the Saviles? Thanks! :*

(Posted here, sorry OP because it's kinda C18th or pre, and it's not important enough to start a new thread about.)



Hi Cat

I have sung 'i have a yong suster' with Adam (the monk fella but i think he just likes wearing dresses ;) ) but only sung once cos he has a better voice than my squeaky effort.... You can listen to the album 'Worlds Bliss - Medieval Songs of Love and Death' by John Fleagle on this link..... Yong Suster is track 15.

http://magnatune.com/artists/albums/fleagle-bliss/

He sings in old english and its brilliant. Yong suster is a really beautiful tune and really easy to learn!! I have plenty of pimms for Kelmarsh if you are going - come and find us :) god forbid we might have a sing song....

Marie (Savs) :thumbup: