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Arming Jack / Doublet

Postby Frances Perry » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:01 pm

Hello there!

My boyfriend is having a 15th century suit of armour made by Mark Vickers in the near future, and would like to know where to get a decent arming jack / doublet from.

At the Ryton fayre we spoke to the Padded Armour Company (Deborah Lough) which had the most wonderful archer's padded jack on sale (which I was drooling over as it was lovely but sadly only a display item as it was going to a museum).

My boyfriend has asked around about these guys and got a mixed response over the items made by PAC.

Can I pick people's brains over where they got their arming jacks / doublets from, and whether they got them fully pointed; how much it cost; what alterations they had to make, etc.

Thanks!


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Postby Tuppence » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:07 pm

Mixed response meaning??

If you mean slow delivery, that would be down to me having been ill.

To work properly with armour an arming doublet is a highly specialised (and quite complicated) garment, which has to be made to measure, cut in a particular way, and involves several fittings.

For ones I've made previously, see oxfords, gloucesters, and destrier.


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Postby Frances Perry » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:16 pm

Dunno.

Guess you'd have to speak to my boyfriend...

Just asking for poeple's opinions and where they got their jacks from!!!


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Postby Tuppence » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:19 pm

I should also point out that now I'm better:

- delivery is now guaranteed for next season (waiting list is to May after this weekend), obviously subject to availability for fittings

- all arming doublets carry workmanship guarantees for two years

- you don't pay till you're happy about it (none of this pay before we send it silliness) - well unless you're overseas

- if it has to be delivered via post we will now only send it via special delivery, fully insured


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Postby Colin Middleton » Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:03 pm

My armourer recomended PAC. In the end, I've gone on to make an Arming Doublet myself and it has been no small task.

Don't fall into the trap of thinking that a Padded Jack and an Arming Doublet are the same thing, they aren't! If you're wearing well fitted plate harness over your padding, you'll want a well fitted arming doublet (not heavily padded and fitted with points) for the armour to sit on. If you're relying on the jack for the main protection with a few pieces of armour fastened over it, you'll want your jack much heavier and thicker padded.

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Postby Tuppence » Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:28 pm

My armourer recomended PAC.


Ooh - that's nice to know. Who's your armourer (I just like to know these things :D )


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Postby Skevmeister » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:13 pm

Can I just say that I have heard nothing but Praise for 2d's stuff and I have perused her stuff as well and it look spretty bleeding amazing to me, and her knowledge and advice regarding this on this forum has also been pretty bleeding profund.

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Postby Tuppence » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:30 pm

:oops: :oops: :oops:


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Postby Tuppence » Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:31 pm

:oops: :oops: :oops:


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Postby Quayn » Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:59 pm

Aye though not a customer (yet) Oxfords have a plethora of PAC padded armours also speak highly of them. I've madde a jack for under my newly aqcuired armour adn can say from experience, it's not easy to ge the fit right. Debs has the experience with these things, so ask away.

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Postby Quinch » Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:23 pm

I have three items from the PAC and several other items from 2d costumes. All have been exactly what I ordered and finished to my specification and I have had no problems dealing with her.

About the feedback you got, you don’t say if you asked people who bought stuff from her, or were in competition with her….



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Postby craig1459 » Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:40 pm

Quayn wrote:Aye though not a customer (yet) Oxfords have a plethora of PAC padded armours also speak highly of them. I've madde a jack for under my newly aqcuired armour adn can say from experience, it's not easy to ge the fit right. Debs has the experience with these things, so ask away.
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Postby Frances Perry » Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:09 am

Hey thanks!

I'll pass this information on to my boyfriend!

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Postby Simon_Diment » Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:00 am

Firstly I admit that Nige and 2d are two of my closet friends so I'm slightly biased.

I've made lots of padding over the years and it is hard, but this time I went straight to Debs for a new aketon, she specialises in padded armour and knows exactly what punishment it's going to endure.

She's the expert and has supplied most of Conquest too afaik.


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