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where to start :0

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:28 am
by wizbit
I have this weekend started following the mister to his reenactments and had such a lovely weekend have started to try and get some of my own soft kit.. i have boots and a cloak but am completely stumped for a dress. Would people recommend buying one or attempting to hand make one.. if the latter where do i start for ideas and templates etx

Tia x

Re: where to start :0

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:04 am
by lucy the tudor
Great to have you on board, what period are you both playing in, and we'll be better able to help?

Re: where to start :0

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:00 pm
by wizbit
I believe its 13th c onwards.. i would be looking to be in the lower end of society of the time so i know its fairly basic dress wise..

Re: where to start :0

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:47 pm
by wizbit
More detail.. hubby is with the galloglass so im looking for irish womens dress around the same period ..1250 to 1600 x

Re: where to start :0

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:19 pm
by frances
I'd talk to the other women in the group and look at their costumes and their research ideas.

Re: where to start :0

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:53 pm
by zauberdachs
Have a look at "Medieval tailors assistant." Should give you an idea of clothing for different time periods and what is involved in constructing it.

Re: where to start :0

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:50 pm
by Colin Middleton
The MTA does ENGLISH clothing. Irish may well be quite different.

However at that point, the clothes are likley to be quite loose fitting and easy to make, so if you can face the sewing, you can save yourself a lot of money by making your own.

Re: where to start :0

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:30 am
by 40/- freeholder
The Moy gown might be appropriate for the country and time period. There is a commercial pattern available, from an American firm but there are outlets over here. I'm sure Moy Gown in google will find it. It's not necessarily the easiest pattern for a novice.
NESAT X (google again) includes a schematic pattern for a much simpler gown of a style c. 1250AD. I don't have the full reference to hand. To me, the beauty of this design is that it shows how the medieval seamstress would have taken measurements to get a personal fit, rather than the more complicated body blocks in MTA, which I find very off-putting.

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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:34 pm
by zauberdachs
Colin Middleton wrote:The MTA does ENGLISH clothing. Irish may well be quite different.
Surely you mean pan-European fashions?

There are patterns in MTA for shirts and mantles (read leine, brat...) and long sleeved gowns, which I imagine will be a good start for what she is looking at.

Re: where to start :0

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:37 pm
by Colin Middleton
zauberdachs wrote: Surely you mean pan-European fashions?
No, the MTA focus' on English fashion in the Middle Ages. Many of these garments may be common across Europe, but others aren't (for example, the MTA doesn't cover Italian tie-on sleeves or the various continental head-dresses that were in use).
zauberdachs wrote: There are patterns in MTA for shirts and mantles (read leine, brat...) and long sleeved gowns, which I imagine will be a good start for what she is looking at.
Sorry, I probably wasn't very clear on this. SOME of the garments may be identical, but I'm not sure which are right and wrong as I know almost nothing about historic Irish dress. Given that early 13thC costume seems to be fairly standard throughout Europe, that may be viable as a direct copy (but check because I don't know), but I suspect that you'll see more divergenance as you go through the 14th & 15th Centuries. Though I don't know how late Wizbit's group goes.

Best wishes anf good luck to Wizbit.

Re: where to start :0

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:54 pm
by zauberdachs
English fashion in terms of chronology but not in terms of the garments, these are common garments.

Re: where to start :0

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:59 pm
by Grania
Going to be really cheeky and try and glean here! I've been trying to research Gaelic Ireland, into the 16th Century, for years, without a huge amount of success - can anyone give me any tips at the same time as this?

:$ Apologies, couldn't resist!