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17-18thC Working women's stays video

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:12 pm
by Foxe
In response to debate elsewhere about the practicality of stays for the working woman, Mrs F. shot this video, which might be relevant to some here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8wwhlnprmE&feature=youtu.be

Re: Working women's stays video

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:51 pm
by Sophia
Very interesting Foxe. This is a good example for stays in a period (C17th) where they are attested at all levels of society and emphasizes the importance of a good fit. This in and of itself is an issue as not everyone is good at making stays or can afford the services of a stay maker. This is probably what has led to this myth.

However, it is probably not useful for C16th where paires of bodies are less well attested and the images of the lower classes which we have suggest that they are not boned rather stiffened with with layers of canvas. While paires of bodies and bents are listed in the Costume article on Peckover and Galliard these accounts refer to the upper echelons of society. IIRC correctly the first social criticism of the wearing of paires of bodies does not appear until the 16 teens. I apologise for the lack of proper references but I had a hard disk die at the end of last year and have not re-established my bibliography.

Perhaps you might want to adjust the thread title to reflect this.

Re: Working women's stays video

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:41 pm
by Foxe
...also not relevant to Romans, Vikings, Mud-eaters, or 101st Airborne... :wink:

Re: 17-18thC Working women's stays video

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:13 pm
by Sophia
Indeed - My C16th hat seema to be firmly stuck to my head at the moment. :wink:

Re: 17-18thC Working women's stays video

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:31 pm
by Foxe
I've changed the title anyway, just to avoid accidentally luring any Victorians in.

Re: 17-18thC Working women's stays video

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:14 am
by Sophia
Please also complement Tam on her stays which really show that at this period they are fitted to the body and mould, rather than reducing like Victorian viewers.

Re: 17-18thC Working women's stays video

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:53 am
by Wim-Jaap
that's a real nice video!