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Newbie Help

Postby lillicat23 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:21 pm

Afternoon :D

I'm hoping someone can help with a couple of patterns? I've just started up with an early medieval group and am making my first kit. As much as I'd love to buy everything new, I can't afford it. Does anyone have any links to patterns for cloaks and pouches? I've found a very basic dress design which I'm getting to grips with, but cloak patterns on-line seem to be very LARP-ish and not really what I'm looking for.



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Re: Newbie Help

Postby Captain Reech » Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:05 am

What period are you looking at? (aerly Medieval could be several hundred years!) Don't worry about not buying your kit, it's probably best to make as much of your own as possible. (And don't worry too much about your stictching, take a good look at originals in museums or on line and you'll see the finish, particuarly on the inside, is far less "professional" than the kit you pay for even on very "High" status garments!)
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Re: Newbie Help

Postby houseoffreyja » Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:29 am

Hi Lillicat23,
What status are you portraying? If it's low status, the cloaks are quite simple. Send me a PM and I'll help with patterns and ideas.
Elaine



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Re: Newbie Help

Postby lillicat23 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:34 pm

thanks for the responses :)

The group isn't hugely concerned with period appropriate clothing - as long as it's C11 to C14 it's pretty much accepted. Ideally I'd like to have a few pieces from different time periods in that stretch so I could look a little more authentic. And I'm a big lass - I think the earlier period dress style is more suited to my epic *rse ;) I quite like the look of kirtles which seem pretty easy to make and I'm sure as I go to more events I'll pick up more ideas.

I'll be low status, although would like to make something a little prettier for beer tents in the evening. I'm looking for cloak patterns similar to the Scottish Widows advert for wenching and drinking mead. And wrapping myself up when I'm in a freezing cold tent.



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Postby houseoffreyja » Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:51 am

The cloaks didn't have hoods attached, it was a separate item, but it's not hard to make. Or the hoods are quite cheap to buy.



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Postby Alice the Huswyf » Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:15 pm

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Re: Newbie Help

Postby lillicat23 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:42 pm

Thank you very much for the PMs - I'm going to be sewing like the clappers this weekend. Think it'll be more trial and error than anything!

Is there a forum link to people who sell re-enactment clothes? I'd like to buy one or two pieces every so often, particularly the ones that are more complicated to make. I've had a look on ebay but there's not a huge amount there.



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Re: Newbie Help

Postby Jackie Phillips » Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:57 pm

lillicat23 wrote:Is there a forum link to people who sell re-enactment clothes


No, but there are a few of us who can help you.

I am Cloak'd & Dagger'd - http://www.cloakedanddaggered.com

Duke Henry - http://www.sallygreen.co.uk

Izabela Pitcher - http://www.priorattire.co.uk/

And that's just to start.

Best wishes

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Re: Newbie Help

Postby houseoffreyja » Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:47 am

And we make cloaks.....House of Freyja.
Elaine



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Re: Newbie Help

Postby lillicat23 » Sun Apr 08, 2012 1:12 am

Brill, thanks Jackie - you're only down the road so I shall be putting in the overtime at work and coming to spend up a storm soon.
Made some trousers today, the local material shop had an epic sale so I got a few linen remnants quite cheap and managed to put them together without a pattern and made some (slightly baggy) pants that will be great with a tunic. I couldn't get enough linen for a dress so settled for some plain cotton drill that I'll be dyeing a nice russetty brown colour.
I've been googling the sites you listed, there are some talented people out there.



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Re: Newbie Help

Postby Biro » Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:15 pm

Hi Lillicat,

Strictly speaking, 11-14c is high-medieval :wink:

If I may offer a suggestion. For that period, low-status clothing didn't change an awful lot - but you could run into problems when you have people wanting to portray high-status (or in other words have something prettier :D ). There were quite significant changes in high-status clothing for both men and women through those centuries, so I would suggest narrowing down your date range. It gives you a much smaller frame to research and also gives an identity to your group, making it look like it belongs to a particular period - where otherwise, there is a danger of becoming a mish-mash of periods which could cause problems internally if you feel you need to narrow it down at some time in the future.
Or alternatively stick to low-status portrayals until you decide an on particular period (we changed our mind after a couple of seasons!).

If it's a case of not wanting to limit the events you can do, I'd suggest low-status soft-kit for everyone - but when you're doing your own events - you'll probably want an identity, and therefore defined period to go with it.

We do late 11c to early 13c events, getting by with fairly generic low-status soft-kit, and for the military side changing shields/helmets and adding/removing surcotes/mail chausses to suit. But have decided to focus specifically on mid-13c. This means that for our own events, we can look at what makes that period distinctive from those around it and then focus specifically on that 'look' on top of the basics - if you follow me.



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Re: Newbie Help

Postby Nigel » Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:32 am

lillicat23 wrote:Brill, thanks Jackie - you're only down the road so I shall be putting in the overtime at work and coming to spend up a storm soon.
Made some trousers today, the local material shop had an epic sale so I got a few linen remnants quite cheap and managed to put them together without a pattern and made some (slightly baggy) pants that will be great with a tunic. I couldn't get enough linen for a dress so settled for some plain cotton drill that I'll be dyeing a nice russetty brown colour.
I've been googling the sites you listed, there are some talented people out there.


Not being funny here BUT WHY TROUSERS ???? SinGle legged hsoe are easier to make take less fabric so are cheap to make and are of course correct.

You criticise Larp above then settle on cotton ??? Where are you in the country as there are numerous suppliers if you knwo where to look


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Re: Newbie Help

Postby lemonsherbet » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:24 am

Herts Specialist Fabrics sell a variety of wool and linen (and it comes in amazing cloth bags too!) and will send samples to you so that you can check the weight / colour. I have some lovely linen that I made an underkirtle out of and bought some 'medieval' wool from them that I used for an overkirtle.

Bernie the Bolt has also a huge selection and although I've bought fabric for livery coats from him at ILHF he was also quite happy to send me a selection of swatches of linen and wool in the colour range I wanted for me to choose from - I do like to see and feel before I buy material! I also told him what I wanted the fabric for so that he considered the weight of wool (ie my cloak). And he posted my order to me quickly! The Cloth Hall were at Leeds Armouries last weekend and had some lovely wool too!

Local markets (or at least they do still here up north!) have wool and linen at times and are worth keeping an eye on although thats no use when you needed it NOW!!!! :wink:

I've also been to sewing shops with the intention of buying modern things and have come away with fabric for re-enactment purposes! I just need to start sewing some of it now......



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Postby Nigel » Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:34 am

Leeds market bm fabrics have a good range of linens from £4.00 a metre well worth a look and very friendly


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Re: Newbie Help

Postby lemonsherbet » Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:02 pm

Nigel wrote:Leeds market bm fabrics have a good range of linens from £4.00 a metre well worth a look and very friendly


NO!!!!! I do not need any more material!!!!!


But I'm in town tomorrow - it would be rude not to follow your kind suggestion :angel:



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Re: Newbie Help

Postby lemonsherbet » Sun May 06, 2012 1:15 pm

Nigel - finally managed to get into town yesterday and checked out the stall - and yes, they do have a good range of linen in many colours!

Some very nice blue just had to come home with me..... :shh:



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Postby Nigel » Sun May 06, 2012 2:26 pm

aH EXCELLENT bet the price was pleasing too :D


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