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Viking trousers?

Postby SvenNygard » Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:01 pm

This probably seems a bit of a daft question, but did the vikings wear different types of trousers, or did they mostly wear the 'Rus' type baggy trousers and not use the closer fitting saxon type?

Also, were winingas/leg wraps/whatever people call them worn with the baggy trousers?


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Re: Viking trousers?

Postby nathan » Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:54 pm

By 'Viking' i assume you mean Scandinavia 700-1050AD (or possibly more widely north-western european, 600-1100AD).

In either case the predominant evidence for male legwear (we don't see much above the knee so could be trousers or hose) is tight fitting, sufficiently so that the calf is discernible, this is supported by the clothing finds we have from Thorsbjerg, Damendorf and Skjoldehamn (see http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc-carlson/cloth/trousers/breechesindex.htm).

The 'russ' type trousers are based on very limited pictoral evidence from Eastern Europe (hence the 'Russ' bit), they are in no way 'typical' for Scandinavian or North-Western European dress. We have no idea how they may have been constructed as they are based on a stone-carving.

If you to make a looser pair of trousers you could wrap your lower leg with leg-wraps and achieve a look very close to the normal reproduction (this is what i personally believe the source people use to support russ trousers is actually representing).

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Re: Viking trousers?

Postby Neil of Ormsheim » Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:56 am

Defiantly tighter trousers. Withing the Vikings, we use obvious culturally specific objects/decorations to distinguish different ethnicities (even if some of theses culturally specific objects/decorations are possible re-enactorisms) e.g. Winningas and embroidery are ususally reserved for Saxon/Englisc, tablet braid for vikings and check/plaid materials for celtic types. Where you have Anglo-Danes or Hiberno-Norse, then the boundries start to ge a bit blurred. The other thing to remember is - if you are settling in a new country you will almost certainly start with kit that is culturally specific to where you came from but, as this stuff wears out, it will be replaced with stuff of local manufacture (and, therefore, probably local design). This means that a "Rus"-trader/warrior (as soooooooo many people want to portray) may well have hard kit (i.e. metalwork) from the East but their soft kit (cloth, leather etc) would be from the last place they had it replaced. This means that unless they have just stepped off a boat from Novgorod, most "Rus" vikings should be wearing clothes of local manufacture.


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Re: Viking trousers?

Postby Optio » Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:36 pm

nathan wrote:
The 'russ' type trousers are based on very limited pictoral evidence from Eastern Europe (hence the 'Russ' bit), they are in no way 'typical' for Scandinavian or North-Western European dress. We have no idea how they may have been constructed as they are based on a stone-carving.


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Yep there is pictorial evidence on stone carvings, but unless I'm mistaken, there has been remains of a pair of Rus style pants found somewhere (not sure where), green silk legs with red silk gusset/crotch?




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