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Postby craig1459 » Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:51 pm

On the left - impressive headgear
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Bernat Martorell
Saint Peter Altar (detail)
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Postby Dave B » Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:55 pm

There's several of those to choose from. have you seen the wedding of alfofino?

Fox was discussing getting one made, felted from beaver fur.

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but then you know that cos you posted on the thread at the time

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Postby craig1459 » Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:59 pm

The Arnolfini?


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Postby Dave B » Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:03 pm

that's the fella. I'm not dyslexic, just a rubbish speller

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Postby Hraefn » Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:33 pm

A close up of that hat looks like black dyed straw plait


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Postby craig1459 » Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:32 pm

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I've seen an illustration of this in a book but not the original

DELEMER, Jean
Albrecht of Bavaria from the Tomb of Isabella of Bourbon
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Bronze with black laquer patina, height 56 cm
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Postby Hraefn » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:06 am

Blocking a felt like that would take a multi piece mould/block/form like this
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And I've not seen or heard of any from that early.
Now using straw plait, that would be a goer or even woven straw though again most experts(phonetically ex=hasbeen spurt=drip under pressure) say [smug droning monotone] Of course all straw hats were made by the straw plait method, that is a long plait of straw sewn in a spiral, until well into the seventeenth or possibly eighteenth century [/smug droning monotone] and who am I to question them.


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Postby lucy the tudor » Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:24 am

Tell me about it, I have been dithering about the block for months now, well OK, ask Fox, twenty months. I have some appropriate wood and a chainsaw ... but just need to get my head round it to start carving and then fine it down.
Anyone who would like to beat me to it and make a block, please feel free, and I'll gladly felt the hat on it.


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Postby sally » Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:38 pm

I would be tempted to wet block the crown manually after getting most of the shape on a plain straight sided block and literally bully it into shape, fisting the top of the crown wider than the bottom, its pretty physical work doing it that way, but it does work, its how I shape most of my pointy hats as each customer usually wants a very different profile



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Postby Cat » Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:20 pm

I've got a Polish straw hat roughly that shape. It's ver' silly.


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Postby lucy the tudor » Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:26 pm

That would probably work fine Sally, and I may well choose to do it that way for the sake of my sanity. A couple of failed ones even wouldn't take as long as doing the block, but having said that , once I had the block...
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Postby Hraefn » Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:19 am

Carving block out of polystyrene with a hotwire then coating it with that placcy bandage they use for setting arms n legs then cut it about reassemble with lazzy bands........?
Or just get one from the states
http://www.villagehatshop.com/bell_crown_topper.html
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Or
http://www.top-hats.com/1009.htm
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