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Purses In Pieces

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 5:08 pm
by ViscontesseD'Asbeau
http://www.halos.nl/detail.php?booknr=93437

Thinking of ordering this. Anyone seen it, yet?

Re: Purses In Pieces

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:10 pm
by Vicky
ViscontesseD'Asbeau wrote:http://www.halos.nl/detail.php?booknr=93437

Thinking of ordering this. Anyone seen it, yet?


Yes, got it as soon as it came out, and it's fabulous! :D

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 9:24 pm
by lucy the tudor
You lot are a bad influence, you know, peaceful night at home I was having, cheap and cheerful, now I have been and gone and ordered a book!
Does look rather brilliant though, well done for finding it, I couldn't do it in foreign though, found it on Oxbow books site- if anyone else is tempted.
Lucy

Re: Purses In Pieces

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:45 am
by Karen Larsdatter
ViscontesseD'Asbeau wrote:Thinking of ordering this. Anyone seen it, yet?

YES! Got me a copy, it is made of awesome. :D (Went back and rearranged http://larsdatter.com/pouches.htm so that it's organized the same way the book is, so it's easier for me to compare what he's talking about to what I think I'm seeing in illustrations & museum examples.) :)

The amazing thing about it is how wrong conventional wisdom is about the construction of purses & pouches. You think you know how something works, and then ... aha! Totally not that way. :lol:

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:37 am
by Thomas Hayman
Ordered my copy the other week, looking forward to recieving it in the next few days!! Woo.

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 12:13 pm
by gregory23b
me want.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:42 am
by Karen Larsdatter
gregory23b wrote:me want.
Then get! :P It's just £17.95 at Oxbow -- see http://www.oxbowbooks.com/bookinfo.cfm/ID/81349/ -- they've even published an excerpt online at http://www.oxbowbooks.com/pdfs/books/pu ... merika.pdf to tempt you with its pursey-pouchy goodness.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:43 am
by sally
wow, the excerpt alone is impressive. Sadly, I now need a new pouch as my long held vague -but largely ignored understanding that women wearing two looped girdle pouches was a re-enactorism has been proven by this, so Gareth is going to inherit my favourire pouch that Tod made me and I'll have to make a replacement. Still, on the bright side, I'll get to use a pattern from this book when I get round to it :D

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 8:42 am
by gregory23b
"Then get!"

I will aunty, I just have to add it to my list of 'wants'.

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:04 pm
by Colin Middleton
Oh No, my wife's going to kill me! :cry:

That is, unless the house collapses from excess fo bookshelves.

Just one more book...

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:18 pm
by gregory23b
just one more, it wont hurt, just one more......

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:19 pm
by lucy the tudor
It's only one more...
and you need this one, just can't part with any others to make space...
Books are better than drugs, but not necessarily cheaper!
Lucy :twisted:

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:30 pm
by Karen Larsdatter
And it's a skinny lil' ol' paperback. If you got room on your shelf for a thick magazine, you got room on your shelf for this. :)

sally wrote:Sadly, I now need a new pouch as my long held vague -but largely ignored understanding that women wearing two looped girdle pouches was a re-enactorism has been proven by this

Yep - I'd come to that realization too, while accumulating the links at http://larsdatter.com/pouches.htm :? though I think now that I've reorganized 'em, it's a lot easier to see. Most of the other styles are worn by men or women, but the "girdle purse" is a men-only style (and "girdle bag" and "harp-framed purse," I think, if I'm understanding the categories correctly; possibly also the "spring-catch framed purses," but that may just be a function of not having seen examples with women wearing or using that style).

Plenty of pretty styles for women, though; there's a neat sort of multipanelled round drawstring pouch (not actually discussed in detail in the book, IIRC) that seems to be underrepresented in re-enactment, but that's fairly prevalent for women (roughly 15th & 16th centuries), and seems to be worn between the kirtle and gown -- most often in red (presumably silk) with ornamentation along the seams and some sort of tassel or bob configuration --
http://ark.bnf.fr/ConsulterElementNum?O ... =1&Param=C
http://gallica.bnf.fr/image?L=08100144&I=000026
http://www.zum.de/Faecher/G/BW/Landesku ... uern01.htm
http://expositions.bnf.fr/fouquet/grand/f072.htm
http://www2.kb.nl/kb/manuscripts/thumbs ... V_MINM.JPG
http://www.larchetipo.com/2001/feb01/immagine.htm
http://www.wga.hu/html/b/bosch/1early/09folly.html
http://ark.bnf.fr/ConsulterElementNum?O ... =1&Param=C

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:12 pm
by lucy the tudor
Great references, as ever Karen, Cheers
Lucy

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:20 pm
by ViscontesseD'Asbeau
This is my 17thC purse - one of the best things I ever bought from a trader:

http://www.karlrobinson.co.uk/ladies_pu ... ockets.php