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Cloak

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:25 pm
by Panda
Looking for a nice simple pattern for a full lenght cloak with a deep hood. Doesn't have to be period specific a friend of mine just wants something for looking good...

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:08 am
by BrendanGrif
Panda,
I will see you over the weekend, at which point I will provide you no less than half a dozen patterns for cloaks (just to confuse the matter :) )

It all depends on budget and quantity of cloth available reall...Is this Goth gear or something else?

Brendan

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:37 am
by Panda
A friend of mine decided that she wanted a cloak just because. And she bought 5m of the heavy green wool from Bernie at Flags... :D

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:44 am
by BrendanGrif
what height is she?
[edit] and cloth width[/edit]
-presume she wants it ankle length

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:51 am
by Panda
She's a wee bit shorter than me and I'm fairly sure the cloth is 60" but it could be slightly shorter. And yes ankle length.

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:53 pm
by Colin Middleton
Apparently, if the width of the cloth is enough to cover the drop from your shoulder to your ankle, you draw a semi-circle on it, cut it out and hem it. Then call it a cloak. If not, you add a peice to the bottom (of the cloak) so that you can do the semi-circle.

This is (of course) for medieval. There are bound to be other ways to get other styles of cloak.

Good luck

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:01 pm
by Panda
Colin Middleton wrote:Apparently, if the width of the cloth is enough to cover the drop from your shoulder to your ankle, you draw a semi-circle on it, cut it out and hem it. Then call it a cloak. If not, you add a peice to the bottom (of the cloak) so that you can do the semi-circle.

This is (of course) for medieval. There are bound to be other ways to get other styles of cloak.

Good luck
Oh I know that but the ion;y problem I find with those is getting them to hang properly at the front. I'm thinking more alonf the lines of a panneled fitted at the shoulders type job. :D
Thanks anyway. :D

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:51 pm
by Vermin
I had a semi circular cloak, but to fasten it at the front it ended up a bit bunched around the neck & tight around the shoulders

Have gone for 3/4 of a circle now which is much more comfortable

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:06 pm
by Tuppence
3 quarter circle works well, as does a shape that's two quarter circles with an eighth of a circle set in between them.

key to making it sit right over the shoulders is the cut a small circle out of the top edge for the neckline, regardless of how wide the circle (applies to full circle and more than circle cloaks too).

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:29 pm
by frances
Cloaks-wise the modern paper patterns tend to be good. And their hems come out level too, astonishingly so.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:51 am
by Tuppence
oh - but having been looking at my nice new book on embroidery, a lot of the copes pictured are simple semi circles when laid out flat.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:18 am
by Shadowcat
Tuppence wrote:oh - but having been looking at my nice new book on embroidery, a lot of the copes pictured are simple semi circles when laid out flat.
Hijack in progress. "New embroidery book"? Details please.

S.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:38 pm
by Tuppence
medieval embroidery book by the british museum press - probably not a new book, but new to me, and has some v pretty pictures :D

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:24 pm
by Sophia
If you mean the Kay Staniland one it is rather gorgeous isn't it.

Soph :D

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:41 pm
by BrendanGrif
I bought it ...read it... and suddenly (as yet unused) embroidery thread and other related items appeared in my dwelling... :shock:
Cant remember (deny) buying them :!:

Brendan

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:40 pm
by Shadowcat
Ah, have the Staniland, used it, love it.


S.

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:26 pm
by Alice the Huswyf
Back to the cloak - If making a hoodless cloak, do the semi-circle method and you are left with two big triangles of waste in the corners. Trim them down by cutting off the curved edge, join them together to make a large, triangular insert. (this will leave you extra to make a hood if you wish, with the liriprpe styling already created by cutting the cloak hem out) Cut your semi circle in half vertically down the back. Sew one half to each side of your large triangular insert. Cut a neckhole in your top edge. 3/4 circle cloak, no waste. Half circle cloaks are uncomfortable becuase there isn't quite enough fabric to drape over the shoulder wihout pulling. 3/4 sorts this.

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:01 pm
by Random Mumblings
Sophia wrote:If you mean the Kay Staniland one it is rather gorgeous isn't it.

Soph :D
Ooh, I've just ordered that one. £1.58 from abebooks, which I thought was jolly bargainous, even moreso if it's a good book. :D