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Postby lidimy » Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:37 pm

Thoughts and opinions? :D

Personally I wasn't too impressed. I don't know much about regency clothing or about the novel itself, but the fashions in this version of Mansfield appeared to cover at least a span of 40 years?

I also found Billie Piper a little off putting, but I guess that's down to personal taste!

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Postby Zachos » Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:40 pm

Billie piper wouldn't be quite as off putting if her front teeth weren't quite so large.

I haven't managed to see any Jane Austen all the way through, bar one, as none have matched up to the brilliance of the BBC version of pride and prejudice, so I've lost the will to finish watching.


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Postby lidimy » Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:59 pm

Zachos wrote:Billie piper wouldn't be quite as off putting if her front teeth weren't quite so large.

I haven't managed to see any Jane Austen all the way through, bar one, as none have matched up to the brilliance of the BBC version of pride and prejudice, so I've lost the will to finish watching.




:lol: So harsh!

But agreed, ITV period dramas just don't have the quality of BBC, or consistency at least.

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Postby craig1459 » Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:17 pm

Zachos wrote:Billie piper wouldn't be quite as off putting if her front teeth weren't quite so large.

A tad harsh methinks :lol:

BPs maturing into a very good actress. Wasn't impressed with her beau who resembled a stunned carp for most of it

As for the fashions - yes I did notice earlier stuff popping up. Not sure if that's due to lack of research or perhaps older people/characters wearing older fashions :?


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Postby MedicKitten » Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:30 pm

older people/characters wearing older fashions

larger breasted/ well upholstered older women in empire gowns would be a touch indecent, and I believe that there was a tendency for them to continue wearing bodiced gowns a la 1700s instead of the more daphneous josephine styles... which required a more sylphlike stature. For their descretion I am eternally grateful.


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Postby Annis » Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:37 pm

I didn't see all of it, and I wasn't really watching it, but I prefer the other version.


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Postby Wiblick » Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:41 pm

kinda dull.

Billie at least had the decency not to smile too much, unlike whatshername in the latest P&P movie.

The bundle placed at the feet of Mrs Norris in the coach, that interested me, the use of 'runaway' type bundles as hand luggage, but perhaps it was just her lunch?

Becoming Jane was likewise dull.
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Postby lidimy » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:08 pm

Oh - I had hoped to see Becoming Jane. Is it not worth while?

Craig that's harsh about Mr stunned trout, I didn't think he was too bad looking :lol: Maybe I am destined to be matched with a fish :shock:

The thing is with the costumes was that they could at least have looked like this, which isn't at all revealing and is recognisably early regency. But there we are.


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Postby Annis » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:12 pm

Wiblick wrote:Billie at least had the decency not to smile too much, unlike whatshername in the latest P&P movie.


Urgh, please not Keira Knightly. I didn't see that because a) it had HER in it and b) Mr. Darcy was not as good looking as Colin Firth was :D


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Postby lidimy » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:48 pm

Aww, Kiera wasn't all that bad Annis :P but agreed, Colin Firth is unbeatable! His appeal was so much more subtle :D

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Postby MedicKitten » Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:48 pm

I dunno...I kinda thought that that scottish chap was rather good looking... admittedly he wasnt Colin Firth, but I think that he could have done a wet-teeshirt scene credit! :twisted:


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Postby lidimy » Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:03 pm

Too blinking right :lol:


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Postby Annis » Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:20 pm

Don't know who he even was. I've never heard of him! Kiera's in every blooming film, she needs to take a break, she's alright in POTC though.


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Postby lidimy » Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:56 pm

Northanger Abbey is on Sunday. It's directed by Andrew Davies - another bodice ripper I'm afraid :roll: not good reviews so far, I believe.

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Postby Wiblick » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:27 am

lidimy wrote:Oh - I had hoped to see Becoming Jane. Is it not worth while?


Well certainly go see it, then we can bitch about it together... except it's quite forgettable and I'm struggling to think what I thought of it!

I dunno, it was simply dull... as one reviewer said they took Jane's life, overlayed it with themes from her novels and then made up a load of stuff and stuck it on screen. It didn't engage.

Would be interested to hear people's thoughts on the clothing, especially Jane's drawstring dress and Cassandra's pink one.



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Postby Carl / Sir Geoffrey » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:57 pm

<note: not my period at all/>

Please can someone explain why the men seemed to spend all th time wearing shirts with high collars, jackets or waistcoats and an extra layer on top, while the women went round in thin dresses that revealed a lot of cleavage?

Wouldn't one be too warm and the other too cold - or was that truly the fashion?


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Postby AnnieS » Wed Mar 21, 2007 2:26 pm

There were too many changes to the story - Billie Piper acted well but was far too healthy and glowing for Fanny Price.

The story felt rushed and the pc reference to the slave trade fgs - Jane Austen didn't do that kind of political commetary.

Not particularly bothered about seeing Northanger Abbey, but looking forward to Persuasion.



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Postby Theotherone » Wed Mar 21, 2007 2:44 pm

Carl / Sir Geoffrey wrote:<note: not my period at all/>

Please can someone explain why the men seemed to spend all th time wearing shirts with high collars, jackets or waistcoats and an extra layer on top, while the women went round in thin dresses that revealed a lot of cleavage?

Wouldn't one be too warm and the other too cold - or was that truly the fashion?


I think I remember reading (long ago) in Gone With The Wind, that ladies of Scarlett's mother's generation use to spray their muslins with water to make them even more revealing.


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Postby lidimy » Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:02 pm

Wiblick wrote:
lidimy wrote:Oh - I had hoped to see Becoming Jane. Is it not worth while?


Well certainly go see it, then we can bitch about it together... except it's quite forgettable and I'm struggling to think what I thought of it!


Done! I like that idea :twisted:

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Postby MedicKitten » Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:51 pm

ladies of Scarlett's mother's generation use to spray their muslins with water to make them even more revealing.


that might work in the american south, where its bloody INFERNAL in the summer, but....um....in England? in 1800? wouldnt you catch something and die? or is THAT where all the consumption came from?


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Postby Theotherone » Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:15 pm

I beleive you probably caught convinent chills - like Jane in P&P


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Postby Theotherone » Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:36 pm

Suddenly had a terrifying and unshakeable flash back to the mini skirts, crop tops, heels and no visable coats in Leicester Square. On Twelth Night.

Maybe young womenn have a chill protection field. (Wish I had. Temps 38.5 and rising and I feel terrible)


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Postby lidimy » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:56 pm

Theotherone wrote:(Wish I had. Temps 38.5 and rising and I feel terrible)


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Postby Annis » Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:39 pm

Noone's going to talk about Morthanger Abbey then?


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Postby Guest » Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:52 pm

I saw it. It wasn't bad, but the General wasn't a patch on Robert Hardy in the version about 20 years ago, who chewed the scenery with relish.
The older version also had an interesting scene actually in the baths at Bath, with floating trays of drinks and nibbles, as far as I recall.



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Postby lidimy » Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:14 pm

Nope, I didn't watch it for some reason! But Persuasion is on soon, this Sunday I think. W00tles.

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Postby Annis » Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:09 pm

oops, I spelt it wrong.

I didnt really want to watch it, but I wanted to know what happened (until 10pm) but it annoyed me because I didn't who should have been trusted. What happened in the end?


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Postby Wiblick » Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:48 am

I've watched 2/3rds - although it's a fun adaptation I can't seem to watch it. Probably because the General's booting out scene is coming soon. The Clankie One thinks it's hilarious.

Will be brave and watch the rest tonight and report back.

I'm dreading Persuasion as it's my favourite Austen.



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Postby Attilla the Bun » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:26 am

craig1459 wrote:
Zachos wrote:Billie piper wouldn't be quite as off putting if her front teeth weren't quite so large.

A tad harsh methinks :lol:


I actually turned it off halfway through, and when I later tried to work out why, I realised ithe main reason honestly was because I couldn't bear to look at them any longer. She just seemed wrong for the period, somehow


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Postby Theotherone » Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:40 am

Annis wrote:oops, I spelt it wrong.

I didnt really want to watch it, but I wanted to know what happened (until 10pm) but it annoyed me because I didn't who should have been trusted. What happened in the end?


It's a Jane Austin adaptation. It all turns out OK in the end :D


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