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Leeds armouries question

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:50 am
by Martin
Im thinking about booking the show but we are being put off by the cost of parking either £1 per hour in the multistory car park or £10 a day at the armouries which is putting the cost up by at the very least by £40 has anyone else got any suggestions ? we are considering booking a hotel / B&B and maybe leaving the van there and commuting by taxi, would anyone be up for sharing ?

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:11 pm
by Martin
my bad, £30 min

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:17 pm
by sally
I'm dithering as well, I think it could be a really good location for a market and hopefully reach a lot of people who don't make it down to the ILHF or TORM, but with the van we''d have to be in the £10 carpark too, so with setup on Friday thats fri-mon= £40. I don't think a taxi from further out would work out much cheaper though probably :worried:

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:20 pm
by Martin
Sal are you and gruff both going or is it just one of you ? we could share transport maybe, take one van cos we dont need tents etc that way we would save 50% travel costs etc, just a thought :)

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:24 pm
by sally
its both of us, don't think we an get 4 people and stock in either of our vans can we?

I think we will try this show, fingers crossed it attracts lots of lovely visitors

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:44 pm
by Martin
we could do 3 and all the stock / tables etc v/easily but not 4, unless we used the Nissan and a trailer, that would be simple enough :)

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:07 pm
by sally
certainly worth considering and the offer is very much appreciated- but its still going to mean 3 full sized people in the front inst it, which isnt going to be very comfy for Sue driving over a long haul?

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:10 pm
by lucy the tudor
We're doing it, and have booked a travelodge a few miles away for the weekend, to save parking costs we'll probably get set up early on the Saturday morning, so if you wanted to stay at the same one we could give two people a lift in our bus on Saturday and Sunday, meaning only needing to park in town on the Monday for packing down?
The travelodge worked out at £114 for the whole three nights for four of us, so cut the costs a bit.
I think this one will either be an absolute cracker or a bit of a damp squib, but as you two both sell things which appeal to the public lost too, the normal daily footfall of the place should be enough to make it worth a crack?

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:15 pm
by sally
lucy the tudor wrote:We're doing it, and have booked a travelodge a few miles away for the weekend, to save parking costs we'll probably get set up early on the Saturday morning, so if you wanted to stay at the same one we could give two people a lift in our bus on Saturday and Sunday, meaning only needing to park in town on the Monday for packing down?
The travelodge worked out at £114 for the whole three nights for four of us, so cut the costs a bit.
I think this one will either be an absolute cracker or a bit of a damp squib, but as you two both sell things which appeal to the public lost too, the normal daily footfall of the place should be enough to make it worth a crack?

That sounds promising too! Which travelodge are you in? The Etap is £30 a night, but then there is the parking thing on top if we stay near the Armouries.

Anyone else doing this one, mybe there is a grand Cunning Plan that can be arranged with van shuffling?

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:24 pm
by lucy the tudor
Drat, just checked the booking for the name of the Travelodge, and it's a Premier Inn ( they're all the same, aren't they?)
Leeds City West, Premier Inn. Worked out a good price for us, and the parking is free when you're there, it's just still worth our taking the parking in town as four of us on the bus costs as much as the parking...
The parking fee was a bit of a shock- the pitch fee isn't small for a first time event, but if they have to charge they have to I suppose. I can't see many traders having vehicles which fit in a multi storey?
Could be a good do though, and the more of you that come the better it will pull the lovely reenactors we all need.
Having said which, we really rather like Yorkshire, and if it all didn't go ahead, we'd still go stay in the hotel and do some museums and visiting good stuff- we'va paid now.

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:28 pm
by sally
As long as they can pull in enough re-enactor visitors to buy things I think it should be good, its a lovely location and the Armouries usually gets really nice visitors on a day to day basis anyway, plus the bonus of being able to take turns to go and look at the collections. Its not cheap to do though is it, especially as these days we really can't fit our stuff onto a single table so need to book a double pitch. My only worry is that as its Easter weekend, will most of the local re-enactors be off at events? I don't know much about what is going on in that part of the country over Easter

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:45 pm
by sally
hey Martin, been scouting out hotels and the one Lucy is in looks the best deal- just under 4 miles away.

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:10 pm
by Martin
cool, will have a look in a mo, Ive had a thought, if all the traders got all their facebook chums to share the poster for the armouries, literally ask every reenactor on FB to share with their chums etc that would generate a lot of advertising I'd have thought

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:48 pm
by lucy the tudor
I'm sure we could mobilise some of the people who aren't at a show already, and they are advertising a jousting tournament, which should bring in the tourists.
I must admit I wouldn't want to do a show of this kind every Easter, as Easters at Kentwell are one of the most magical times- I usually work in the dairy right next to the bakehouse where they make hot cross buns all day- the smell is enough, let alone the taste. But actually we can't really afford the diesel this year to go so far, so often, and Leeds is relatively close.

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:41 pm
by Biro
Oo - what's going on at the Leeds Armoury?

I was thinking of having a day out over there sometime over the spring.....

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:50 pm
by lucy the tudor
Biro wrote:Oo - what's going on at the Leeds Armoury?

I was thinking of having a day out over there sometime over the spring.....


http://www.royalarmouries.org/events/ev ...

Look at April

Should get you there.

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:32 pm
by The Sarg
I hope this is a hit with the northern re-enactors & our LARP friends.
But most of us will be at events over easter.
Also in 2002 there was a re-enactors market at the armouies. Lots of good traiders but the hall was to small & not enough visitors.

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:55 pm
by Phil the Grips
I was teaching at the Armouries last weekend, there wasn't a single mention of it anywhere. When I muttered about it to some reenactor chums of venerable years who have their ears to ground on most matters they hadn't heard of it at all. It doesn't bode well.

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:18 pm
by lucy the tudor
Though I suspect you may well be right, I very much hope you are wrong.
I have booked and paid for the show, and the hotel.
I am planning on making a greater preponderance of those things which sell well to MOPs, than I do usually.
Of course it does mean, if none of the rest of you turn up, I get first dibs on the stuff from their demonstrating collection, and horsey bits and bobs, which they say they are selling off. So it may not be a wasted journey.

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:08 pm
by Neibelungen
That's the reason for the market. Hoping the reenactor types will be there to buy up what's left of the wardrobe.

They pulled the best bits for the tour guides/meet & greet staff, gave the ex interpretation staff pick of what was left and hoping to sell off what nobody else wanted to the reenactors .

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:24 pm
by paul bennett
There is some parking available for free in the streets between the armouries and the main road but it's not the securest of places.
Parking in Leeds is a bit of a mare.
The armouries is only a 5-10 min walk form the main bus station though, so it's worth seeing if there are hotels on a bus route.

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:04 pm
by Frances Perry
Phil the Grips wrote:I was teaching at the Armouries last weekend, there wasn't a single mention of it anywhere. When I muttered about it to some reenactor chums of venerable years who have their ears to ground on most matters they hadn't heard of it at all. It doesn't bode well.
Phil, Stuart Ivinson told our group at our AGM on Sunday and no-one was aware of it. Give me the details and I can whack it on the WoTR and MSS Facebook pages for more coverage if you want??? Some LARP groups may be interested too... :D

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:37 pm
by Martin
FFS !!! I emailed them 2 weeks ago with concerns about advertising, explaining the concerns of other traders and was told there would be plenty well in advance, maybe if all traders who are going email them and ask to know what is being done to promote it and share our concerns it may help, otherwise it could be waste of f***ing time and we cant afford any more of those especially from a place that can advertise well and has done in the past but currently is showing nothing, zip, f*** all apart from this
http://www.royalarmouries.org/events/ca ... ory-market :| , which you'll only find if you go on their website, passing trade would be nice !

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:39 pm
by busy mole
Emailed them too, will have to just will wait to see the reply. A little concerned.

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:49 pm
by sally
having crunched all the numbers and cross referenced the bank balance, I think we're applying to do Glastonbury instead. I really hope Leeds works out well, but we just haven't got the pitch fee let alone the accommodations costs at the moment.

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:36 am
by Martin
we are going to apply for Glastonbury as well, Suzie do one I do the other, we wanted to do it together but our confidence is dropping a little but as we've booked I dont want to not do it as it still may be OK :wink:

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:17 am
by Bittersweet
Can you get on to Leeds 'council' or whatever it is? They must have some pull with the Arouries surely as it's such a huge attraction. ask them to promote the market side of it?

i don't trade and i'm going to glastonbury but that doesn't stop me wanting to help others make a success of things :) ...just sorry I can't help more :(

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:12 pm
by busy mole
Have heard from them saying leaflets and posters etc going out now, so hopefully not as we feared?
I sent the Email at 10pm last night the reply was back by 7am this morning so very prompt!

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:33 pm
by Martin
thats what Kate told me as well, so thats a BIG relief :)

Re: Leeds armouries question

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:01 pm
by busy mole
Organizer sent me this this morning with some more information attached.
Had permission to pass this on. Seems good.
"From our marketing department:

Marketing for the market to date

Skirmish re-enactors’ magazine - half page advert (March)
Leeds consumer leaflet (in circulation)
Jan/Feb E-news
E-flier sent to traders
E-flier sent to reenactment groups (60+ contacts)
Royal Armouries website

Forthcoming

Press advertising w/c 26/3 (Easter events including market) - Yorkshire post, Yorkshire Evening Post, Metro, Leeds Weekly News, Pudsey Times, Wharfedale Valley Times
Yorkshire’s Magnificent Attractions Group Easter magazine – regional circulation
Press release – I can prepare a separate press release for the market rather than include it with the Easter events
March E-news (due Fri 23 March) "