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drinking vesels

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:41 pm
by Matild Le Sauvge
i have found a beer le Trappie that is in a medievil clay contaner i was wondring if any one knew of othe bevrages that wher in simlar contaners and what the product is caled.
http://beeronline.ru/beer/trap/11357.gif

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:52 am
by sally
Its more of a Victorian shape and finish of bottle than it is medieval I believe (someone will correct me if it would pass muster earlier) but definately much more fun than glass. Don't a couple of the German wines and some of the Dutch gins come in similar stoneware bottles?

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:15 pm
by Matild Le Sauvge
i know that it is fine for our groop since we use similar botles.

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:26 pm
by Nigel
Matild Le Sauvge wrote:i know that it is fine for our groop since we use similar botles.


Is it ok you say its fine because we use them all the time why ? please tell serioulsey I would be very interested in seeing your evidence for this

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:14 pm
by Matild Le Sauvge
sorry i mean the groop do for shows so thay should be fine it all gose through the head of the BSU and genral enacitve we used simlar vesals all the time i just using the botle as an exsample i probly dident need to but im not used to this tipe of foroom whair every one is on the same wave length also the subjects i take in colage make me paint out the ovous and give examples. im just simply want to know if any one knows os other vesels and what the brand is. i hope this meks sence.

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:53 am
by Tuppence
in a medievil clay contaner


i know that it is fine for our groop since we use similar botles.


what period of medieval are you talking about??

I know that it'd completely and utterly wrong for the bit that I do, so would be interested

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:15 pm
by m300572
I'd put it as wrong for most if not all of the medieval in Britain - I dont think pottery was used for bottles - and beer was more likely to be stored in the barrel and drawn off as required - a medieval household would have got through a fair amount and it wouldn't have been stored in little bottles. Similarly with wine.

By the late 16th/early 17th C you start to find glass 'onion' bottles in the archaeological record.

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:47 pm
by Simon_Diment
If you want to know about pottery in Britain then I heartily recommend the book below, you can probably get it out of your Uni library:

Medieval pottery in Britain, AD 900-1600 / Michael R. McCarthy and Catherine M. Brooks.

Cheers

Simon

p.s. Just because it's in common usage within your group doesn't always make it right. It's an easy mistake to make if you don't know better and it's not confined to re-enactment, we were given an example of this during a lecture about the first professional archaeologists - if enough people claim it's right then it must be...unfortunately not!

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:27 am
by Tuppence
p.s. Just because it's in common usage within your group doesn't always make it right. It's an easy mistake to make if you don't know better and it's not confined to re-enactment, we were given an example of this during a lecture about the first professional archaeologists - if enough people claim it's right then it must be...unfortunately not!


damn - so does that mean the first dinsaur hunters didn't find dragons???? :cry: :cry:

Re: drinking vesels

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:22 pm
by Karen Larsdatter
Some ceramic bottles from medieval and post-medieval Britain ...

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:00 pm
by m300572
Karen comes up with the images again! You're an absolute gem!!

The examples are mainly post medieval though and the bottle shape is totally different to Matilds examples - however I suspect if you took some of these pictures to a good potter you could get some copies made up fairly easily - or go to TORM and see if anyone is flogging them there.

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:41 pm
by Karen Larsdatter
:oops: thanks :)

Here in the U.S., Jeff Brown sells Raeren-style stoneware bottles. Hudson does some related stoneware, too.

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:10 pm
by Matild Le Sauvge
i reilise that it not all ways rigth and thanks for the hellp

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:57 pm
by Tuppence
just read in another thread that you do the same period as us (one of), and sorry, but that kind of bottle isn't even vaguely right, it's just wrong.

if you do use them in your group, I'd suggest banning them immediately in favour of something that's correct.

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 8:25 pm
by Nigel
Suggest thats a bit light just ban em :D

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:44 am
by polthepot
Nice troll

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:14 pm
by Tuppence
polthepot wrote:Nice troll
:?:

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:54 pm
by MedicKitten
Karen, do you know anyone in the US who makes proper Bellarmines? Would be an EXCELLENT present for my Mum.

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:37 am
by alice
The Taverns, inns and households of Gor use a variety of drinking vessels some examples of these drinking vessels are: cups, brass cups, glasses, bowls,globets,metal globets, silver globets studded with rubbies .golden globets and kantharos.wineskins or botas made from wineskn leather are some of the patterns of drnking vessels.

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:48 pm
by gregory23b
Alice love, where is 'Gor'?, other than the fantasy world of the books of the same name? :twisted:

Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 3:54 am
by Arrowfodder
Some of us tend to believe that the larger earthware jug 2 1/2 pints (thank you Jim the pot) would be the collective vessel , mazeres (thank you Todd) being the individual ones. Is more fun sharing!!!

Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 11:37 pm
by Marcus Woodhouse
You've left the forum and entered the Twilight Zone. :?

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 8:58 pm
by gallois
My group represents 15th Centuru medieval and we only allow jugs and barrels for liquid containers.
I suppose you should be asking what context the vessels? In a dwelling or permanent meeting place why would they need individual portion storage? If talking about transporting beer small bottles would be totally impractical.