Just how big was the medieval county of Nottingham?

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Just how big was the medieval county of Nottingham?

Postby Marcus Woodhouse » Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:50 pm

I' ve just been watching Robin Hood Prince of Theieves on one of the Discovery channels. In the process of which my youngest daughter said Dad didn't we climb up that tree when we visited Scotland. Sure enough as Robin and some Arab fella are taking on the Sherrif's men there is a tree that I swear to God we climbed up in order to get a good view of ...Hadrians Wall. Now I only have a BA(ed) in history and a MA in Celtic studies, most of my postings have been about medieval history, but.... just how bloody large is the county of Nottingham?!?



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Postby Gail Horn » Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:24 pm

Considering it only takes them a day to get from Dover to Nottingham via Hadrian's Wall (apparently!) it's obviously not very big!


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Postby Alan E » Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:08 pm

Gail Horn wrote:Considering it only takes them a day to get from Dover to Nottingham via Hadrian's Wall (apparently!) it's obviously not very big!

By walking south (check which way Robin points for east). Obviously the trains were better then :P . Really is a fun film for spotting stuff like that :D . Can anyone tell me why the Turkish archer on the wall doesn't just keep shooting when the three of them are faffing 'round the first one he shot? Film'd have been much better! :twisted:


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Postby Rochester » Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:18 pm

I watched the first episode of Robin of Sherwood starring Workmonkey (sorry, Michael Praed :wink: ) on ITV3 yesterday afternoon. At one point the nasty Guy of Gisburn :evil: was accompanying the Lady Marion 8) from Nottingham Castle to Kirklees Priory, very slowly without any baggage. Now as Nottingham Castle is in Nottingham and the Priory is on the Northern edge of Huddersfield you'd think the journey would take 3 or 4 days at the speed they were going through the woods. The question is this, where were her Ladyship's clean knicks for the journey :twisted: ?

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Postby WorkMonkey » Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:22 pm

Rochester wrote:, where were her Ladyship's clean knicks for the journey :twisted: ?



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Postby Skevmeister » Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:26 pm

Actually sherwood was very large hence th reason forest rather than wood. I did have actuall refeneces to acreage, but I cant find them. Somewhere between Mid Midlands and Mid Yorkshire. Was the range of it and coast to coast with clearings for towns, villages, etc. But Nottingham was an important enough place for cromwell to destroy it.

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Postby gregory23b » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:49 pm

" I did have actuall refeneces to acreage, but I cant find them. Somewhere between Mid Midlands and Mid Yorkshire."


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Postby Alan E » Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:14 am

Skevmeister wrote:Actually sherwood was very large hence th reason forest rather than wood. I did have actuall refeneces to acreage, but I cant find them. Somewhere between Mid Midlands and Mid Yorkshire. Was the range of it and coast to coast with clearings for towns, villages, etc. But Nottingham was an important enough place for cromwell to destroy it.

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Yeah, but was it all pine trees (hung with wind-chimes throughout - cute :? )?


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Postby Skevmeister » Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:29 am

No, I think that Pine is a foreign import especially now by forestry commissions to bulk out the depleted woodlands. I think that the commonest evergreen tree in britain was variation sof a spruce.

I actually have a lease for 1 square foot of Sherwood Oak Wood for 999 years courtesy of TQO as an xmas present.

If anyone is really that interested I could actually go and look in the library an dget facts and figures.

Does anyone know why cromwell burnt nottingham castle down.

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Postby m300572 » Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:05 pm

No, I think that Pine is a foreign import especially now by forestry commissions to bulk out the depleted woodlands. I think that the commonest evergreen tree in britain was variation sof a spr


Other way round - Scots Pine is indigenous (or at least it came back with the other 'native' trees after the last glaciation) assorted spruces are imports (mainly from North America) and weren't grown commercially in this country until the late 20th century (although there were specimen trees in arboreta and botanical gardens).

Oddly though, the earliest record of spruce comes from Skara Brae Neolithic settlement in Shetland - its thought to have arrived as driftwood across the Atlantic.



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Postby Skevmeister » Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:14 pm

I stand corrected. I knew it was one or the other.


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Postby Nigel » Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:44 pm

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The castle was a Parliamentarian garrison during the first civil war commanded by Col Huchinson whose wife left quite a detailed account of the goings on there.

I think it was destroyed by act of Parliament in 1651 (if I recall) this would pop it slap bang in the middle of the castle slighting programme which basically saw lots of castles blown up to stop them being used as Royalist strong points for further risings.

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Postby colonelboris » Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:47 pm

Apparently, there are only four types of conifer native to Britain, Scots pine, juniper and I've forgotten the other two.


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Postby Kate Tiler » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:04 am

I know the castle was burned down again later than the 1600s, in the Nottingham Bread riots, which sound such fun...


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Postby craig1459 » Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:18 am

colonelboris wrote:Apparently, there are only four types of conifer native to Britain, Scots pine, juniper and I've forgotten the other two.


There are only three species of conifer which are generally recognised to be native to Britain - those two and Yew


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Postby Skevmeister » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:31 am

http://www.nottinghamcity.gov.uk/sitema ... istory.htm

heres the history of teh castle for you


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Postby Marcus Woodhouse » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:15 pm

So, if I understand what you are saying to be true then Hollywood lied to me! Does this mean that America hasn't won WWII for us either?



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Postby kael » Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:34 pm

Big enough to switch counties with both leicestershire and derbyshire and incorporate East Midalands Airport. It also has branches in scotland, dover and an easy rowing trip from jerusulem.



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Postby Marcus Woodhouse » Sat Mar 25, 2006 9:14 pm

Sounds good where can i book a holday package there?



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Postby polthepot » Wed May 10, 2006 8:20 am

Easyboat, You turn up at the Jetty in Antioch pay the man two spruces ,a Scots pine, half a Juniper and yew get dropped off somewhere in
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*Sherwood forest......Anywhere between the Baltic and Oldham.


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Postby kael » Thu May 11, 2006 6:34 pm

*Sherwood forest......Anywhere between the Baltic and Oldham.


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Postby Marcus Woodhouse » Thu May 11, 2006 7:49 pm

Is Nottingham castle the capital city of the empire of nottingham shire?




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