Minden 2007

Mark P. · Post by **Mark P.** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:43 pm

A few pictures from an extremely hot and sweaty Minden.

Firstly the garrison encamped within the grounds of the fort.
Next the redcoats making strategic use of the shade in their camp.

Mark P. · Post by **Mark P.** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:46 pm

Followed by a discussion as to whether the sentries should face inwards or outwards, then what happens when you get it wrong!

MP

lidimy · Post by **lidimy** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:52 pm

Looks scrummy

Mark P. · Post by **Mark P.** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:34 pm

Not just a military weekend, there were civilians taking part as well.

MP

Jim Smith · Post by **Jim Smith** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:37 pm

I always wondered how King Louis' boys kept those white coats even passably clean on campaign.

steve stanley · Post by **steve stanley** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:11 pm

Don't think they did particulally.....just like ours,let the mud dry & brush it off.....mind You,only the French could have a"Royal" colour of a white cross on a white ground...........
Steve

Andy R · Post by **Andy R** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:41 am

steve stanley wrote:Don't think they did particulally.....just like ours,let the mud dry & brush it off.....mind You,only the French could have a"Royal" colour of a white cross on a white ground...........
Steve

And only George Washington could mistake the flag of truce for the Royal colour and shoot a parley party.

Got to say the bleaching effects of the sun also help keep your whites white.

Looks like it was a fantastic event Mark.

Mark P. · Post by **Mark P.** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:53 am

Some more event pictures can be found online here

http://www.live-foto.com/bildergalerien ... /index.htm

(http://www.live-foto.com/bildergalerien ... /index.htm)

MP

Zachos · Post by **Zachos** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:14 am

I really don't need another period, but those white uniforms look delicious.

Mark P. · Post by **Mark P.** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:32 am

Look into my eyes and repeat after me

I really need another period

I really need another period

MP

steve stanley · Post by **steve stanley** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:44 am

Stage 2..."I really need another period which involves being shot by Redcoats"........
Steve

Tod · Post by **Tod** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:20 am

I think the lass in the red jacket and tricorn (with the fan) should join RaT.

Mark P. · Post by **Mark P.** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:47 pm

I doubt it Tod, have you thought about trying to get Steve to wear a frock instead?

MP

Tod · Post by **Tod** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:19 pm

Obviously the sun got to you, or the biscuit tin entertainment was lacking.

m0rt · Post by **m0rt** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:54 pm

Mark P. wrote:Look into my eyes and repeat after me

I really need another period

MP

This, made me crack up.

Im dirty

Steve of RaT · Post by **Steve of RaT** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:02 pm

Tod wrote:I think the lass in the red jacket and tricorn (with the fan) should join RaT.

I can't comment as the wife occasionally reads this forum

But on a statistical point of view, we have no women in red jackets and three cornered hats with fans, so there is an opening.

Marcus Woodhouse · Post by **Marcus Woodhouse** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:36 pm

Bloody English, Bloody French I'd heave the lot of youse into the Boyne if i had me way. Mutter,mutter, mutter.....and don't get me started on those Cork men.

lidimy · Post by **lidimy** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:53 pm

Marcus Woodhouse wrote:Bloody English, Bloody French I'd heave the lot of youse into the Boyne if i had me way. Mutter,mutter, mutter.....and don't get me started on those Cork men.

Is that cos they'd float if you threw them i the Boyne?

steve stanley · Post by **steve stanley** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:18 pm

Thank you,Lidimy......just nearly sprayed my tea all over the computer....
Steve

Tod · Post by **Tod** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:29 am

Steve of RaT wrote:
Tod wrote:I think the lass in the red jacket and tricorn (with the fan) should join RaT.

I can't comment as the wife occasionally reads this forum But on a statistical point of view, we have no women in red jackets and three cornered hats with fans, so there is an opening.

Soon to be appearing at Belton

lidimy · Post by **lidimy** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:29 am

steve stanley wrote:Thank you,Lidimy......just nearly sprayed my tea all over the computer....
Steve

Gerry · Post by **Gerry** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:39 am

Bloody English, Bloody French I'd heave the lot of youse into the Boyne if i had me way. Mutter,mutter, mutter.....and don't get me started on those Cork men.

Have you considered the 'Irish Brigade' Look just like the English but have the annoying habit of shooting at us.

Gerry · Post by **Gerry** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:43 am

Followed by a discussion as to whether the sentries should face inwards or outwards, then what happens when you get it wrong!

I was feeling nervous with the French already inside the Fort.

Andy R · Post by **Andy R** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:10 pm

Gerry wrote: Have you considered the 'Irish Brigade' Look just like the English.

Appart from the French uniforms and equipment that is

Gerry · Post by **Gerry** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:24 pm

Appart from the French uniforms and equipment that is

But they are red 'French uniforms' with coloured facings and leather belts, in which the differences are not obvious until it's too late - as Pulteney's discovered on St Lucia in 1781.

'Count Dillon reached the barracks at six o' clock in the morning, and found a part of the garrison exercising on the parade. The enemy, imposed upon by the uniform of the Irish brigade, were soon undeceived by a fire from the latter within pistol shot.'

Andy R · Post by **Andy R** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 1:44 pm

Gerry wrote:
Appart from the French uniforms and equipment that is
But they are red 'French uniforms' with coloured facings and leather belts, in which the differences are not obvious until it's too late - as Pulteney's discovered on St Lucia in 1781.

'Count Dillon reached the barracks at six o' clock in the morning, and found a part of the garrison exercising on the parade. The enemy, imposed upon by the uniform of the Irish brigade, were soon undeceived by a fire from the latter within pistol shot.'

Ahh, now the 1776 uniforms on were made a little more up to date - what with having the lapels and the such as every other European army had been using since the 1720's.
(I think the uniform changed in 1776, 1777, and 1779)

In 1781 the most notible difference would have been that the French uniforms had the bayonet included in the cartouche strapping.

I also heard of a British unit that escaped the Americans during their Insurection by turning their coats inside out and pretending to be French.

But the Irish of the WAS and 7YW were more like the British of the late Marlburian period - who said the French were the leading light in fashion?

Gerry · Post by **Gerry** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:10 pm

But the Irish of the WAS and 7YW were more like the British of the late Marlburian period - who said the French were the leading light in fashion?

Speaking off the cuff as I'm at work and have no reference books to hand, that could also be quite like WAS and 7YW British with skirts turned down and lapels folded across for bad weather ? as we have been known to do when masquerading as a Marlburian unit.

Andy R · Post by **Andy R** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:47 pm

Gerry wrote:
Speaking off the cuff as I'm at work and have no reference books to hand, that could also be quite like WAS and 7YW British with skirts turned down and lapels folded across for bad weather ? as we have been known to do when masquerading as a Marlburian unit.

I'm at work to, and running from memory (oh dear, oh dear oh dear)

The standard French justaucorps changed little from the WSS to the WAS to the 7YW

The coat got lighter in colour and the cuffs smaller, and in the 1740 the coats generally had 18 button fronts (from collar to hem), and in the 1750's this changed to a 9 button front (from collar to crotch) and usually with the addition of an epaulet on the left shoulder.

Some French units did have lapels, but they were in the minority till 1776
Early C18th

1740's Marine

1756

1779-

Musketier · Post by **Musketier** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:01 pm

Some more pics of Minden 2007:

http://www.minden1759.de/Galerie.html

http://www.kircher-photographics.com/bi ... inden07cd/

Hope to see you again in 2009!

Jonnie Boy · Post by **Jonnie Boy** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:46 pm

Musketier wrote:Some more pics of Minden 2007:

http://www.minden1759.de/Galerie.html

...including the first ever Georgian Goth in Galerie 4. Now she was scary

Oh, and the girl with the nice SHOES in Galerie 2 - playing with Nick's hat. Yes, shoes, nice shoes...