Pike making MK Museum and Etal.

Yourselves, events, parties, costumes...

Moderator: Moderators

User avatar
Tod
Absolute Wizard
Posts: 2884
Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:25 am
Location: A small part of Scotland hidden in middle England
Contact:

Pike making MK Museum and Etal.

Postby Tod » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:28 am

One of the many problems running the Flodden project was trying to buy or make pikes for the Scots forces. As I couldn't buy any at a decent price I decided we would have a go at making some. No one seemed to know how the originals were made and I came to the conclusion that as ash was farmed there was a good chance they took young trees rather than taking older ones and spliting them etc. In January I went up to Etal where Lord Joicey offered to have some trees cut to be made into pikes.
The first making week end was held up in Etal and was attended by members of the Border Clansman, Armet and Hugh Robertson from Living History Scotland. Hugh and I found that you could make one fairly straight pike from raw ash in about 45 minutes. This was using only hand tools - saw, draw knife, axe and hacking knife. Paul Bennett made me a pike straightening jig based on a wood cut from the mid 16th century. This worked well until I broke it, it has now been modified by Paul and works well. Working in teams of three the group made 10 pikes, these now need to season a bit (we really don't have enough time) and have heads fitted.
Moving down to Milton Keynes Museum I held another making week end at Milton Keynes Museum where I have been given use of part of the site. This was less well attended but between three of us we got two pikes made and two old ones treated with linseed oil.
The project is still on going as I have a couple more pikes to prepare. The Northern Alliance in Scotland are also collecting wood from Etal and will make some more pikes before the event.
For more info log onto the Flodden forum. Details are in my footer below.
Please not that although we wore our 1513 kit the pictures were not taken at an event open to to the public, saying that as both sites were open we still got a lot of people interested in what we were doing and will now continue this as a LH task.
Attachments
PikeMK 020.JPG
PikeMK 013.JPG
PikeMK 017.JPG
PikeMK 019.JPG
PikeMK 004.JPG
PikeMK 001.JPG



User avatar
Tod
Absolute Wizard
Posts: 2884
Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:25 am
Location: A small part of Scotland hidden in middle England
Contact:

Re: Pike making MK Museum and Etal.

Postby Tod » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:33 am

These are from the making day in Etal, the ones above are from Milton Keynes Museum.
Attachments
Etal 011.JPG
Etal 002.JPG



Mark Griffin
Absolute Wizard
Posts: 4241
Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:28 pm
Location: Wales. Only just!
Contact:

Re: Pike making MK Museum and Etal.

Postby Mark Griffin » Wed May 01, 2013 1:23 pm

very interesting indeed.

I notice two things.

1. You are working close to a pub. How very sensible.
2. Watch out for those cables!


http://www.griffinhistorical.com. A delicious decadent historical trifle. Thick performance jelly topped with lashings of imaginative creamy custard. You may also get a soggy event management sponge finger but it won't cost you hundreds and thousands.

User avatar
Tod
Absolute Wizard
Posts: 2884
Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:25 am
Location: A small part of Scotland hidden in middle England
Contact:

Re: Pike making MK Museum and Etal.

Postby Tod » Wed May 01, 2013 2:50 pm

The pub was nearer that it looks and the cables were much higher then they look.



Mark Griffin
Absolute Wizard
Posts: 4241
Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:28 pm
Location: Wales. Only just!
Contact:

Re: Pike making MK Museum and Etal.

Postby Mark Griffin » Wed May 01, 2013 3:45 pm

correct order!


http://www.griffinhistorical.com. A delicious decadent historical trifle. Thick performance jelly topped with lashings of imaginative creamy custard. You may also get a soggy event management sponge finger but it won't cost you hundreds and thousands.

Mark Griffin
Absolute Wizard
Posts: 4241
Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:28 pm
Location: Wales. Only just!
Contact:

Re: Pike making MK Museum and Etal.

Postby Mark Griffin » Wed May 01, 2013 4:01 pm

do you use a de-barking chisel? They are bloomin handy and a bit easier than a drawknife or shave I find....

You could also get one of these made up, larger size...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Very-Rare-Vin ... 7675.l2557

the one shown is mine. All mine! Nyahahahahahahaaaa!!!!!!


http://www.griffinhistorical.com. A delicious decadent historical trifle. Thick performance jelly topped with lashings of imaginative creamy custard. You may also get a soggy event management sponge finger but it won't cost you hundreds and thousands.

User avatar
zauberdachs
Post Centurion
Posts: 695
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:38 pm

Re: Pike making MK Museum and Etal.

Postby zauberdachs » Thu May 02, 2013 3:40 am

Mark Griffin wrote:do you use a de-barking chisel? They are bloomin handy and a bit easier than a drawknife or shave I find....

You could also get one of these made up, larger size...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Very-Rare-Vin ... 7675.l2557

the one shown is mine. All mine! Nyahahahahahahaaaa!!!!!!


Is that was this is. huh. I was handling one in an antique shop in Auckland, New Zealand, just the other day...


Do not be loath, diligent reader, to winnow my chaff, and lay up the wheat in the storehouse of your memory. For truth regards not who is the speaker, nor in what manner it is spoken, but that the thing be true - Nennius, 8th century

Mark Griffin
Absolute Wizard
Posts: 4241
Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:28 pm
Location: Wales. Only just!
Contact:

Re: Pike making MK Museum and Etal.

Postby Mark Griffin » Thu May 02, 2013 8:42 am

Yes, but its mainly for smaller stuff. I suspect stripping bark pre bodging chair legs or some such. Haven't cleaned and sharpened it yet, maybe a job for today.


http://www.griffinhistorical.com. A delicious decadent historical trifle. Thick performance jelly topped with lashings of imaginative creamy custard. You may also get a soggy event management sponge finger but it won't cost you hundreds and thousands.

Mark Griffin
Absolute Wizard
Posts: 4241
Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:28 pm
Location: Wales. Only just!
Contact:

Re: Pike making MK Museum and Etal.

Postby Mark Griffin » Thu May 02, 2013 8:44 am

Just handling it, it actually works like a giant pencil sharpener so i think it will work well for putting points on things better than a bark stripper.


http://www.griffinhistorical.com. A delicious decadent historical trifle. Thick performance jelly topped with lashings of imaginative creamy custard. You may also get a soggy event management sponge finger but it won't cost you hundreds and thousands.

User avatar
Tod
Absolute Wizard
Posts: 2884
Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:25 am
Location: A small part of Scotland hidden in middle England
Contact:

Re: Pike making MK Museum and Etal.

Postby Tod » Thu May 02, 2013 9:46 am

My grandad had one, you can wind it down the length of wood you have, assuming its the same thickness all the way down. Or at least you could with his one, I think the angle of the blade could be changed, it'll be in one of my workshops some where.



Mark Griffin
Absolute Wizard
Posts: 4241
Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:28 pm
Location: Wales. Only just!
Contact:

Re: Pike making MK Museum and Etal.

Postby Mark Griffin » Thu May 02, 2013 9:57 am

thats the problem, finding trees the same thickness. Even the straightest hazel or willow has a slight taper although this will allow for that. off to clean it and use it., best way!


http://www.griffinhistorical.com. A delicious decadent historical trifle. Thick performance jelly topped with lashings of imaginative creamy custard. You may also get a soggy event management sponge finger but it won't cost you hundreds and thousands.

User avatar
Merlon.
Post Centurion
Posts: 600
Joined: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:31 pm
Location: under a pile of cables in a server room

Re: Pike making MK Museum and Etal.

Postby Merlon. » Thu May 02, 2013 11:04 am

That debarking chisel looks more like a stail engine to me.



Mark Griffin
Absolute Wizard
Posts: 4241
Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:28 pm
Location: Wales. Only just!
Contact:

Re: Pike making MK Museum and Etal.

Postby Mark Griffin » Thu May 02, 2013 12:05 pm

you can make one from old flatted copper pipe. I have seen one with a cutting radius of well over a foot. For mighter men than me...when there were still lots of bigs trees about!


http://www.griffinhistorical.com. A delicious decadent historical trifle. Thick performance jelly topped with lashings of imaginative creamy custard. You may also get a soggy event management sponge finger but it won't cost you hundreds and thousands.

Mark Griffin
Absolute Wizard
Posts: 4241
Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:28 pm
Location: Wales. Only just!
Contact:

Re: Pike making MK Museum and Etal.

Postby Mark Griffin » Thu May 02, 2013 12:07 pm

sorry, you were talking about theebay thing Merlon. Well I have cleaned it and sharpened it now. No idea! It requires talent and years of acquired skill. Think I have a box of that somewhere....


http://www.griffinhistorical.com. A delicious decadent historical trifle. Thick performance jelly topped with lashings of imaginative creamy custard. You may also get a soggy event management sponge finger but it won't cost you hundreds and thousands.


Return to “Pictures”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests