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A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:00 pm
by The Methley Archer
Just a couple of photos from a trip last weekend. Enjoy.
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Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:07 pm
by The Methley Archer
And a few more.
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Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:37 pm
by steve stanley
Looks MARVELLOUS!...Type of thing I'd love to do in my 1750's kit......

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:36 pm
by The Methley Archer
:D Just get a couple of like minded mates, and do it :D Although leave the bang sticks at home; we thought about bills and things but thought it'd be too much of a problem :thumbdown:

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:40 pm
by steve stanley
We came close at a training event last year.....chipping the ice off the blankets was ...different :D ....

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:12 am
by Dan of Britannia
Wow, really impressive, credible and thought-provoking!

You can imagine the medieval footsoldier living in conditions like that!

Nice one! :)

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:17 am
by Hoot
Yeah! I like! A proper pilgrimage in the snow! :D Somewhat remeniscent of Karen Maitland's book "Company of Liars"... Nothing quite like a good trek around the countryside in fear of the plague (and worse) to get the blood pumping! :D

Nice one guys!
Hoot.

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:49 am
by Strickland
Nice one folks, well done!! What kind of knowledge can you impart from your experience?? Best way to keep warm, carrying all you need etc.
Cheers!

Neil

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:01 am
by The Methley Archer
A few more..
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My carrying system
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This is my kit list:
Clothing worn:
Hat
Canvas gaiters
Boots
Underwear
joined hose
split hose
shirt
sleeveless doublet
doublet
gown
belt
pouch
knife
1ltr costrel

Carried on back on made up frame:
cloak
2 x blankets
2 x canvas sheets, 1 wrapped up blankets and the other wrapped the pack
canvas 'tent'
axe

Scrip bag:
food (wholemeal cob, cheese, ham,apples,oats)
2ltrs of water
fire kit (flint, steel, char cloth and tinder)
personal hygine kit
plate
spoon

Carried group kit:
food bag containing lots of veg, return trip - cauldron

Would include something dry for my feet at night and due to the weather an extra blanket. Lessons leart - need a pack animal, the back baskets and my frame need well padding around the straps and the small of the back, we all suffered on the walk back. It was more punishment than pleasure but I would do it again.

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:12 am
by steve stanley
Based on stuff we've done...If possible,spare footwear is a MUST....I aim for three pairs of mocassins...one on and two in pack.
Pack baskets tempt you into carrying more than you should...My spare/repair stuff & food is rolled up in a canvas bag in my blanket roll..OK,I use a native-style tumpline to carry it,but a similar system would be more flexible ..across the chest,over either shoulder...camp axe goes through the straps securing the blanket & cook pot(Tin!..thank god for the 18thcent :D ) hangs off it...Ignoring gun stuff,that leaves a small knife in a neck sheath,larger one in waist sash,pouch with fire kit & a wooden spoon/bowl/ladle.

Steve

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:31 am
by The Methley Archer
Have you any photos of that Steve, especially the tumpline? I did a fair bit of trawling the 15thC images I could find and nearly all show pilgrim scrip bags, pack baskets, split saddle type bags or strapped bundles; anyone know of possible other ways of acceptable carrying? If there are clearer images of the drawings in the dragon issue that has the carring article that would be great.

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:37 pm
by steve stanley
http://www.concentric.net/~rowenna/WIRp ... pline.html should make all plain...Before I got a woven one,I use an old belt with rope let through either end

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:02 pm
by The Methley Archer
Thanks Steve. I stopped being lazy and did a google search and came across the same site :-)

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:17 pm
by gregory23b
Excellent photos.

Those kind are for more meaningful than event based set-piece shots IMHO, as they show people doing simple things like walking, without self consciousness.

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:39 pm
by Ghost
Lessons leart - need a pack animal
Several of our lot went on pilgrimage last summer and luckily they did have said animal........... :D
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Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:02 pm
by Ghost
PS Excellent idea and photos, raise my hat to you

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:57 pm
by chrisanson
very cool!

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 5:18 pm
by Clarenceboy
Another of the walkers just commenting on peoples questions and stuff.

Weight wise we think we can slim down on some items and some duplications, less axes and tarps should make for a lighter load and with that we can probably drop one of the baskets.

As for the cold and wet on the feet, its fine when your walking, we went through 3 or 4 fords both on the way out and the way back on the walk and even though the water was snow melt and very cold your feet soon warmed up as you walked. The problem comes at night, I was lucky to have done a similar thing last year in Belgium with Les Compagnons de la Verte Tente so pre planned it and had a rabbit skin for each foot so wrap that round and tie with twine and cosy feet all night long ;-)

Next time we hope to have a go on the lead up to winter rather than the end of it so hopefully similar weather conditions but the fire wood around will hopefully be a little drier so we have less problems with the camp fire as with it laying on the ground for 4 wet months most or it was rotten and saturated.

Still live and learn ;-)

Trying to find the time to write a report on the weekend so if anyone is interested I'll try and remember to put it online and link to it when its ready

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:21 am
by Mick,M
very nice chap well done did something simlar some years ago the top side of sheffield, me and the dog were did you do this?

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:22 pm
by Clarenceboy
A place called Kidland forrest near a village called Alwinton in Northumberland

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:40 pm
by The Methley Archer
Where the man with the rabbit feet prowls....

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:23 pm
by Clarenceboy
Just revisitin this, account is now written but at 913kb is too big to attach on here :-( if anyone is interested drop me a pm with your email and i'll send it on

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:32 pm
by Frances Perry
Hi Jack - I would seriously recommend sending this into Skirmish with details of what you took and what you would recommend! This would be of great interest to a lot of people and makes a great change to the usual battle set-pieces.

Well done! :thumbup:

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:06 am
by Martin
good call Frances, Im sure Skirmish would like an article about it :)

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:54 pm
by Marcus Woodhouse
They won't print it unless Harley is in it.

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:46 pm
by pajiczek
Our annualy march through the snow covered forest (this year mostly without snow)
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Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:40 pm
by Clarenceboy
Just an update of winter silliness.

This year a friend and I decided to take up an invite from some very welcoming Polish re-enactors to go to Grodzeic castle in the south west of Poland for a winter event. On the back of last year’s fun in the Kielder forest we wanted to try camping outside again except this time there would not be a walk attached to it as we were based in the castle. However with the temperatures dropping to -20oC overnight we thought it best to have somewhere nearby where we could escape to if it all went a bit wrong.

So armed with medieval bush craft kit and a lack of concern for our digits and extremities we pitched up in the woods by the castle for a night to see if we could tough it out.

There will be some better pics to follow as the group we were with had a dedicated photographer but I’m told it'll take a while for her to pick and choose the images she puts on line.

For now there are a few pictures of us setting up the camp and how it looked come the morning.

We think it got down to about -15oC overnight and I can't say for my mate who was with me but I was wrapped up in:
2 pairs of hose
Lamb skin foot wrappings
2 shirts
Pour point
Doublet
Coat
3 blankets

and I only woke up once due to the cold when one wrapping came off and I had to re-tie it

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:41 pm
by Clarenceboy
As a little addendum as well I'm told that the account of our walk last year is going to be in the February issue of Skirmish so if anyone wanted to have a read thought it you should be able to see it in print there.

Not sure what next year holds!

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:03 pm
by The Methley Archer
Nice photos Jack. Dissapointed I couldn't commit and have gone with you all :(

Re: A bit of a walk and camp out

Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:16 pm
by Marcus Woodhouse
The Skirmish article is good. Amazingly it got past the censors who clearly did not notice that Allan Harley was not in any of the pictures!