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Hussite Pavise

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 8:55 pm
by craig1459
This seems to have gone from the Creative Works section so I'll put it here - my new pavise
Image

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:38 am
by wulfenganck
As my comment was eaten up by the forum update once more:
Nice!
Would you mind posting a picture of the backside (interested in the construction of grip/belt)?

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:28 pm
by gregory23b
Painting style works really well.

What are your construction methods, boards, canvas etc? What is that stuff around the pavise edges though?

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:07 pm
by craig1459
gregory23b wrote:Painting style works really well.

What are your construction methods, boards, canvas etc? What is that stuff around the pavise edges though?
Cheers - finally used your painting tuition :-)

I made it from some ply I had spare, pegged together - edged with leather and then covered in canvas (the leather is the ridge you can see round the edges)
It's the first time I've attempted something this complex, but I feel confident enough now to do it again with purchased and improved materials (everything in the construction was spare, scraps)
the back isn't interesting - rope through holes in the wood
I'm just going to use it for display

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:13 pm
by Zachos
I've done a similar thing, although I got bored with mine during painting, so its nowhere near as nicely painted as yours. I'm planning on making one using pine planks, pegs and PVA, and then covered in leather/parchment. After that I might risk it with lime wood, but I might do a different style shield with that. Whats your next one gonna be made out of?

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:24 am
by craig1459
Zachos wrote:I've done a similar thing, although I got bored with mine during painting, so its nowhere near as nicely painted as yours. I'm planning on making one using pine planks, pegs and PVA, and then covered in leather/parchment. After that I might risk it with lime wood, but I might do a different style shield with that. Whats your next one gonna be made out of?
Thanks :-)
Lime wood, probably about 3/4 the size of this one
I also used PVA on this one, would like to use animal glue next time

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:36 am
by Thomas Hayman
Looks good.

Is the leather edging based off anything in particular?
What size is this one?

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:37 pm
by craig1459
Thomas Hayman wrote:Looks good.

Is the leather edging based off anything in particular?
What size is this one?
There are a few in the MyArmoury.com thread which appear to have a leather edging http://radikal.ru/F/s39.radikal.ru/i085 ... b.jpg.html for example

It's 2' by 3'

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:15 am
by Thomas Hayman
Ah.

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:20 pm
by narvek
I am sorry to rain on your parade, but the inscription should be 'Buoh s nami' using period czech :)
:wink:

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:05 pm
by Sir Jarvis Phelps
narvek wrote:I am sorry to rain on your parade, but the inscription should be 'Buoh s nami' using period czech :)
:wink:
English spellings were multiple - I'll apply the same logic to period Czech :-P

someone had better tell Arma Bohemia
http://www.armabohemia.cz/imgnew/epees/reste/b29v.jpg

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:16 pm
by narvek
SJP: Well, the point is, that the diacritic used by Craig (and the one on AB polearm you linked) is a much later (post-hussite). Hussite period is not really famous for it's advanced and intricate literature;)

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:12 pm
by gregory23b
Craig, that is not leather edging, at least not on the one in the link, that is a painted border, to contain the image. The leather is flush finished to allow the painting, you can see a 'ruled' edge that has corners.

The coverings for pavises generally overlap the inside face, not the outside face, ie the outer shell of cloth or leather laps to the user, not the enemy, you get a thicker ridge where the layers overlap, but not edging as such, but that is a general comment of course.

Go straight for animal glue or even cheese based glue for the boards.

Animal size for the painting with a varnish layer perhaps or just varnish based paint, you can use egg as well, depends on the complexity.

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 7:32 pm
by Marcus Woodhouse
Nice cup.

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:36 pm
by gregory23b
Craig,

I have a few shots of an old pavise that needs some reworking, they might be of interest to you, check this link and then see the ones next to it

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/3O ... directlink

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:05 pm
by craig1459
thanks Jorge - very interesting gallery all told :)

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:43 am
by Bestian
Narvek is right about the spelling

It´s great to see someone is interested in our history.

Tabor city is 60 km from my home and Trocnov, born place of Jan Žiška is 13 km from my home. :D

Pravda vítězí!

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:42 pm
by narvek
Nazdar, co ty tu?
:thumbup:

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:47 pm
by Bestian
Ahoj,no chodim sem pravidelně, občas se tu objeví něco zajímavého, akorát jsem tu zatim nic nepsal :D

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:55 pm
by KedlestonCraig
Bestian wrote:Narvek is right about the spelling

It´s great to see someone is interested in our history.

Tabor city is 60 km from my home and Trocnov, born place of Jan Žiška is 13 km from my home. :D

Pravda vítězí!
I'm sure he is - I'm just a poor illiterate peasant ;-)

Ahoj :D

We go over as a group in September every year to take part in Taborska Setkani

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:34 pm
by Bestian
KedlestonCraig wrote:We go over as a group in September every year to take part in Taborska Setkani
Quite funny, but a little bit comercial a definitely non-livinghistory :D

Ahoj :D :thumbup:

btw: we can meet there a try some pub :twisted:

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:40 pm
by KedlestonCraig
Bestian wrote:
KedlestonCraig wrote:We go over as a group in September every year to take part in Taborska Setkani
Quite funny, but a little bit comercial a definitely non-livinghistory :D
yes I know that :wink: but very enjoyable marching round Tabor with flaming torches (and replicas of the weapons from the Hussite Museum) into the main square behind Zizka and his war wagon :D :D :D

we are the only group there that actually portray Hussites and do a combat display so yeah we rule :devil:
Bestian wrote:Ahoj :D :thumbup:

btw: we can meet there a try some pub :twisted:
sure - I met that reprobate Narvek for a few beers last time we were over :wink:

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:58 pm
by narvek
Ÿeap, that's true, I had to drive to event next morning. When are you coming this year?

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 11:39 pm
by KedlestonCraig
narvek wrote:Ÿeap, that's true, I had to drive to event next morning. When are you coming this year?
I'm not this year...I'm going to be a dad in October so the Tabor Meetings is a bit too close :D

There are some other members of the group going though...

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:59 am
by narvek
Congratz man! Good news. If they do arrive on wendsday, I'll gladly take them for a pub crawl:)

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:16 pm
by Jim
narvek wrote:Congratz man! Good news. If they do arrive on wendsday, I'll gladly take them for a pub crawl:)

Crawl? One pub in Tabor is plenty! The beer is dangerously good and way to cheap! :wtf:

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:40 pm
by narvek
I meant in Prague;) Can't come to Tabor, I am at different event that time.

Re: Hussite Pavise

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:20 pm
by KedlestonCraig
Jim wrote:
narvek wrote:Congratz man! Good news. If they do arrive on wendsday, I'll gladly take them for a pub crawl:)
Crawl? One pub in Tabor is plenty! The beer is dangerously good and way to cheap! :wtf:
it's way too cheap in Prague as well ;-)

cheers mate!