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A thread that people can use to link to relevant C18th reviews so that they don't get lost in amongst all the muddy-evil stuff:

1715 The Great Jacobite Rebellion
http://livinghistory.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5564

The Prince and the Pretender Two Views of the ‘45
http://livinghistory.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5417

Cumberland's Army: The British Army at Culloden
http://livinghistory.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4975

Freemen, Freeholders and Citizen Soldiers Jonathon Bagley's regiment 1755 - 1760
http://livinghistory.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4737

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Three more recent book reviews:

The Command of the Ocean 1649-1815
by N.A.M. Rodger
http://livinghistory.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6225
http ://livinghistory.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6225


The '45 - Bonnie Prince Charlie and the Untold Story of the Jacobite Rising
by Christopher Duffy
http://livinghistory.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5968
http ://livinghistory.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5968


The Scottish Jacobite Army 1745-46
By Stuart Reid
http://livinghistory.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5980
http ://livinghistory.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5980
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Pulteney's Regiment
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Thanks for sharing these, Mark. My bookshelf is allways expanding, and these may proove quite useful.

I just got the osprey one about the Jacobite Army, and it's interesting to see Reid taking pretty much the same approach on each regiment as he did in 18th Century Highlanders (also Osprey).

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Yes ....but where are all the sporrans on the illustrtations?
BTW...Hi,Henrik.....
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Hi Steve,

Someone probably thought that's where their money would be and snatched them :lol: I imagine stealing a fully armed highlanders sporran would be a bit dangerous...

The ilustrations are a bit flawed, but still nice when compared to some Osprey publications... And generally the details aren't that bad... But it would be nice to see a book with Lace Wars jacobites in it, seing that Reid has used Pultney's in some of his books :lol: :wink:

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Yes...too much emphasis on sporrans gets a bit Python-ish!...
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Henrik Bjoern Boegh wrote:
The ilustrations are a bit flawed, :
A bit flawed?

Henrik you are being too kind.

Being one of those people who pay attention to the detail and such, I thought the pictures were disappointing to say the least. If you look at the pictures of Jacobites with 1728 fusils for example, there's one guy who has managed to fit all three retaining bands on the last foot of his musket? Not to mention all those bonnets being warn as berets...

The text was lacking as well. Having read up on individual regiments, he states that the Atholl (Athole) brigade had it's first taste of real battle at Culloden, where as history reads that it was at Falkirk where they volleyed off Cobham's dragoons. It was noted by Murray that the battle may well have been lost if they hadn't stood their ground and maintained their firing line.

Fraser's - Fraser's were one of the best equipped units of the war, having been personally equipped with firelock, broadsword and targe by Simon Fraser. This was done after they were kicked out of the Watch in 1739. Fraser rotated all his men through the Watch to make sure they received a solid military training. they were government supporters until Prestonpans and although neutral up to the point where they were forced in to declaring for the Jacobites. Officers changed sides before Culloden, and they were re-introduced to the Government establishment after Culloden (and Fraser's death).
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Come on Andy you've got to admit the little white washed houses in the background are really nice :lol:
On the bonnet front (or back) I've concluded that you'd wear it how you wanted to. This does exclude the chefs hat postion which is punishable by at a minimum £5 fine. :twisted:

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Tod wrote: On the bonnet front (or back) I've concluded that you'd wear it how you wanted to. This does exclude the chefs hat postion which is punishable by at a minimum £5 fine. :twisted:
Good for you.

But an "awfenic" bonnet is very dificult to wear a-la-beret.

Although I did find that in a canny "can I fool you that I am really facing front" kind of way, my bonnet flips backwards when I run away really fast...
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Andy, here's a sollution to your problem: Felt your bonnet a bit more! I've got three bonnets. All made to the same size, but differently felted. My favourite, which I wear a lot (even at work), is thicker and a bit stiffer than the others. In effect it doesn't change it's appearance for a little wind. The other two do.

I support your chef-hat fine, Tod. But if one were to keep an 18th century mindset wouldn't it be a better idea to set a few examples by using the gallows? :twisted:

I'm reading Burt's Letters now, and that's a very good read! If Burt was correct in his observations, then we would have to do something about the way we appeal to the noses of the public. :roll:

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Have started reading books again:

'A Soldier Like Way'
The Material Culture of the British Infantry 1751-1768 by R.R. Gale

http://livinghistory.co.uk/forums/viewt ... 311#163311
(http://livinghistory.co.uk/forums/viewt ... 311#163311)

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To the Ends of the Earth
European Armies in the French-Indian Wars and the War for India.

http://livinghistory.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14695


Sweet William Or The Butcher?

http://livinghistory.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14596
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