British Army Headdress, Help Needed

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British Army Headdress, Help Needed

Postby fredk » Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:43 am

Hi Folks,
I require your help. Your knowledge of British Army uniform head dress in particular.
I have the barest of information yet I must try and find the period of a certain type of headdress and the type of regiment which wore it.
All I have is, it, or the wearers were nicknamed 'button-cap'.
I'm thinking it may have been a soft pillbox style cap for off-duty, with a badge or button on the crown which was prominent.
And most likely to have been worn by foot or artillery rather than cavalry.
The known wearer of such headdress was garrisoned in a castle, but when I/we don't know, nor his regiment. [The castle was in military use up to 1928 or so.]
Others have checked out the usual route of enquiry; castle records, military records [all lost for the castle] etcetera.

I know its a long shot, but you lot know your stuff and may have some ideas.

Thanks in advance for any help.

PS; I'm posting this in the other date sections too as I just don't know which era it could really be.

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Re: British Army Headdress, Help Needed

Postby Merlon. » Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:59 am

Which castle in which country?

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Re: British Army Headdress, Help Needed

Postby fredk » Fri Jan 31, 2014 3:04 pm

oops, silly me for not adding that; Carrickfergus Castle, County Antrim, Northern Ireland.

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Re: British Army Headdress, Help Needed

Postby Medicus Matt » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:48 am

Is this to do with the tale of Captain Nick Marmion, the ghost of Carrickfergus Castle, known as 'Button Cap'?

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Re: British Army Headdress, Help Needed

Postby Mark Griffin » Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:32 pm

I'd say your choice is both easy and hard. What the soldiers and officers wore late 16th cent is pretty much individual choice, or at least the choice of whoever is supplying your 'uniform'. So youll never be able to pin anything down exactly. Now the easy bit, you have reasonably limited choices of a hat that looks like a button. The soft flat bonnet is one as per here and an original

or this charming study of Gareth here:

but as many buttons were also thread worked over a wooden core and were so considerably taller and stiffer this might be an option, but its pushing it imho. (sorry, cant find a better pic, thats an original too though)

The bonnet or statute cap looks most like a button to me..... A delicious decadent historical trifle. Thick performance jelly topped with lashings of imaginative creamy custard. You may also get a soggy event management sponge finger but it won't cost you hundreds and thousands.

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Re: British Army Headdress, Help Needed

Postby Midland Spinner » Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:38 pm

Just to throw another button into the mix - the "Monmouth Cap" is always described as having a button on top. (It's not actually a button, more a knop of wool, but that's beside the point).
Monmouth caps were often supplied to the military. Monmouth caps are also related / confused with Monteroes which also have a button on top.

Then there are all sorts of Scots Bonnets which may or may not have a button or toorie on top.

Good luck with your search.

A lot depends on date.

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