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Greetings to all...I need help...I am from Germany, I am reenactor for the Early Middle Ages and now I want to add a second representation...of an English Light Dragoon around 1800...can someone help me here how it looks exactly and what material is used for their uniforms? :D

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Hi,

what exactly are you after with regards to dress - home service, campaign etc.

1800 was quiet, but if you mean the 1800 regulations worn with minor alterations till 1813 (1815 in some cases) I can help you out.

Boots, overalls and a few other things change in this time.I think all the Tarleton changes that took place had taken place by then.

This is our Peninsular kit...
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And for Waterloo (The 16th only received their 1812 uniform in February 1815)
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Young men have often been ruined through owning horses, or through backing them, but never through riding them: unless of course they break their necks, which, taken at a gallop, is a very good death to die

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I mean the time from the American war with Banastre Tarleton until 1814. After that time the uniforms don't look like I would wear it :wink: ...It's very difficult...I noticed it...the uniforms changed a lot in that few years...I'm undecided, cor!...Have you an example for me like the uniforms looked exactly to Tarleton's times?...by the way: thanks for the other pictures!

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Tarleton's period (AWI)
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16th with modified uniform same period
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Tarleton's Legion
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Hey, thanks a lot...the uniform coat of the Tarleton's Legion...is it completely green or are the front pieces of the sleeves and the collar black ?...I have to say the Tarleton's and the Peninsular are the most dashing ones...and can you tell me what drapery is used for that uniforms?

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Yup, black collar and facings for Tarleton's legion.

The coats we use are all made from woolen overcoating from either Sean Philips, HE Box, or Hainsworth's
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all right...than it is true that the uniforms in the movie the Patriot with Jason Isaacs aren't authentic :D ...and what material you use for the trousers? The same?

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svartefyrste wrote:all right...than it is true that the uniforms in the movie the Patriot with Jason Isaacs aren't authentic :D ...and what material you use for the trousers? The same?
The general style and cut is not bad but the british cavalry unit is fictional, based on Tarleton's dragoons. To help the hard of thinking (one is tempted to say American movie goers) they are portrayed in red coats instead of green.

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In The Patriot:
Colonel William Tavington is based on Lt. Colonel Banastre Tarleton. Tarleton first made a name for himself in December 1776, when he was part of a patrol that captured former Continental Southern Commander Maj. General Charles Lee. He would go to make a name for himself in his exploits in the South, starting with Monck's Corner. He believed in total war, which meant that civilians who helped the enemy were the enemy.

Tarleton's force of Northern Tories was called the British Legion. They also became known as the Green Dragoons because their uniform was predominantly green with red trim, rather than the recognizable red uniform with the addition of green trim as in the movie
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svartefyrste wrote:all right...than it is true that the uniforms in the movie the Patriot with Jason Isaacs aren't authentic :D ...and what material you use for the trousers? The same?
Overalls are made from wool from the same suppliers reinforced with leather
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John Waller wrote:
The general style and cut is not bad but the british cavalry unit is fictional, based on Tarleton's dragoons. To help the hard of thinking (one is tempted to say American movie goers) they are portrayed in red coats instead of green.
Yes, it is easier for the audience...so also the last one will understand that they are British Soldiers...otherwise nobody of the broad mass will get this...let us be forbearing :wink:
John Waller wrote:
In The Patriot:
Colonel William Tavington is based on Lt. Colonel Banastre Tarleton. Tarleton first made a name for himself in December 1776, when he was part of a patrol that captured former Continental Southern Commander Maj. General Charles Lee. He would go to make a name for himself in his exploits in the South, starting with Monck's Corner. He believed in total war, which meant that civilians who helped the enemy were the enemy.
I read the story of Tarleton...and I don't think that it is fair making him the absolutely evil...to worst a much bigger force with a smaller troop don't make you bad!!
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Tarleton's force of Northern Tories was called the British Legion. They also became known as the Green Dragoons because their uniform was predominantly green with red trim, rather than the recognizable red uniform with the addition of green trim as in the movie
Green with red trim??...Andy R. and the pictures of Tarleton told me Green with black trim??...I'm confused :worried:

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I was looking at the picture of Tarleton above..!
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No problem...So the real uniforms of the Tarleton's Legion were green with red trim?

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No, most agree that it is Green and Black, like the chocolate, for the dragoons although a few say green and red.
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okay...thanks a lot to all here...when I have annother question to this topic you will hear from me again :wink:...and pardon me for my not perfect English!! :wave:

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