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Derby December 3rd

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:31 pm
by craig1459
Can someone please point me in the direction of a website with the details of the Bonnie Prince Charlie event that is happening at Swarkestone/Derby in a couple of weeks?


Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:46 pm
by steve stanley
No website as far as I know....
basically,turn up at the Crewe & Harpur at Swarkestone at opening time on Saturday....ignore imperialist aggressors dressed in to repressed ethnic minority wearing plaids....

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:01 pm
by craig1459
Cheers Steve, there's nout about it in the press here - that's an excuse to pop to the Crewe for a swift half this week

Despite the address, I'm a Scot anyway so will be avoiding the chaps in red!

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 2:32 pm
by m300572
I'm a Scot anyway so will be avoiding the chaps in red!

Why?? The Scots regiments in the British Army wore red and there were as many Scots fighting for the Government as there were for the Jacobites! In the 1715 rebellion, the only Government infantry regiment (the rest were dragoons) were the 26th Foot, the Cameronians.

Remember, the Jacobite rebellions were civil wars.

(also a Scot, and perpetually irritated by the strange view of their history that my fellow countrymen/women have)

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:57 am
by craig1459
Pardon me. Hopefully others there next weekend will find educating less irritating. :roll:

I personally find carte blanche in others fun and an opportunity to educate and interact.

You knew nout once as well - don't forget that :lol:

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:35 am
by Mark P.
For Spectators:
Derby Sat 3rd Dec.
Skirmish at Swarkestone Bridge at Crewe and Harpur pub, commences at 1pm.

Derby Sunday 4th Dec.
Skirmish on Cathedral Green Derby town centre.
Derby market place for drill at 11am.
Battle on the Cathedral Green about 12.15 pm.

I'm not a member of CESS so this may not be 'official' but its the best (only) info I have.

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:43 am
by craig1459
Thanks Mark - looks good.

Beware the German market from Osnabruck which is taking up most of the market place until Christmas!

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:54 am
by Mark P.
Pulteneys should have half a dozen redcoats, possibly a couple more.
Beyond that its anybodys guess? This year will be the first time I've attended for a while so I don't know what the average turnout is or numbers for any other groups who may also be going.

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:42 pm
by Tod
Rose and Thistle will be there as will (so I'm told) members of Stewart of Appin's and Fraser's Highlanders.
I think (TBC) that Nick Pennock is commanding the Govt. Forces and I will be commanding the musket of the Jacobite Army and Dale Yates (Appins) commanding the sword, axe only guys.

This is best fun that can be had in sub zero tempretures, any one remember the sleet a few years ago?

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:56 am
by m300572
How did it go this year? We couldn't make it down for various reasons.

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:54 pm
by Tod
I've got to say it was the best I've been to (I think I've done 9). Lace Wars tried to get as many there as poss. and the combined ranks of the Redcoats looked impressive.
The Jacobites fielded more musket than I ever remember, I've still got a rough voice from shouting orders there were that many.
Both days were great, I didn't hear any one complain about the cold and the very little rain on Saturday.
Costume standardsa on the Jacobite side have always been iffy, but as CESS make clear its about the event not the 100% authenticity, however this year although there may have been less Jacobites overall (less sword and targe men) the costume was better.
If any one out there fancy's more of the same drop me a line.

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:57 pm
by Alan_F
Tod, does anyone do the Scottish redcoat regiments of the '45?

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:09 pm
by Mark P.
The only active UK redcoat groups for the '45 that I'm aware of are:

Pulteneys 13th Foot.
Flemmings 36th Foot.
Cobhams 10th Dragoons.
and the Watch.

if anyone knows of anymore i'd be interested too.

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:09 pm
by Tod
Alan if you fancy starting one up I'm sure the rest of the Redcoats would make you very welcome.