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Does anyone have a close helmet with a falling buffe? Or know where I could get a picture of this combination?
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Early c16th
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That's my mid-to-late C16th Burgonet in my avatar pic, but no buff
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It's lovely, but it's not a burgonet I'm after, and it has to have a falling buffe! (I know it's a faint hope, but it was worth a try!)
Thanks, though, Phil
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This is where I get a little confused. As far as I know a falling buffe is part of the 16th Century garniture that turns a burgonet into a closed face helmet.

Whilst a Close Helmet is one the terms used to describe a full faced helmet used by cuirassier in the 17th Century.

I'm not aware of any part added to helmets in the 17th Century in a the same way as a garniture.

Italian Close Helmet of 1580 http://www.allenantiques.com/A-114a.html

Burgonets http://www.allenantiques.com/Armour-Bur ... ction.html

look at this one Italian closed burgonet of 1620 http://www.allenantiques.com/A-59.html

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The one I'm thinking of is early 17th century, because it was made in two pieces but has quite a high crest, and a close helmet rather than a burgonet becasue it hasn't any cheek pieces. Or so I've been told
The falling buffe is a very late example, an unusual both in that it's in three segments and that it's attached to a close helmet rather than a burgonet.

I knew it was a long shot, thanks anyway!
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Like a jousting helmet?

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Originally, who knows, but eventually more of a 'OMG, have to go and fight in a ECW battle, whatever am I going to put on my head - oh, that'll do' type of scenario
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