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Postby Paul Allen » Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:32 pm

Hi,

I've just taken up Tudoring, with my focus on the Elizabethan Age. Got some kit, where's it best to get more?

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Postby lidimy » Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:48 pm

if you're not making it yourself, then i would go to annie the pedlar, who makes lots of yummy tudor clothes!!
here's her site -
http://www.anniethepedlar.com/

doubtless she will come along soon, as well as a few others. how new are you to tudoring, exactly?

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Postby Paul Allen » Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:53 pm

I'm very new to Tudoring. I have one suit of clothes and am researching the period furiously. Fortunately, I learned a fair bit about it from my Theatre Studies. I know Annie, slightly, and I understand she has things other than clothes for sale. Is that right?

I do four other periods already.

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Postby lidimy » Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:00 pm

yep, annie does other stuff too, not sure exactly what though! for more on clothes, i would buy 'the tudor tailor' which has stacks of info on tudor clothing from henrican to elizabethan, as well as patterns. if you are dead set on buying clothing rather than making it, i dont really know how to help you too much, but if you make it yourself (a lot more fun, and probably less expensive) then i can help you a lot more.

btw, why elizabethan? henrican is far better!! :D

are your clothes upper class or peasant, or somewhere inbetween? who do you tudor with, and how important is authenticity to you?

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Postby Annis » Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:11 pm

Hello and welcome!

How can I help?

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Postby Paul Allen » Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:09 pm

lidimy wrote:. if you are dead set on buying clothing rather than making it, i dont really know how to help you too much,


I've already bought a suit £385 for doublet, round-hose, thigh-boots and hat - seemed too good an opportunity to miss.

lidimy wrote: but if you make it yourself (a lot more fun, and probably less expensive) then i can help you a lot more.


I may yet take you up on that - I still need a cloak and a sword-belt and perhaps another hat. Thanks very much for the offer.

lidimy wrote:btw, why elizabethan? henrican is far better!! :D


Because of my interest in Elizabethan Theatre and Voyages of Discovery - my stock-in-trade.

lidimy wrote:are your clothes upper class or peasant, or somewhere inbetween? who do you tudor with, and how important is authenticity to you?


Mine are very distinctly upper class and I look a right tart in them! The suit just happened to fit like a glove and suits me very well. It's an ex-theatre costume, with lace cuffs and ruff attached, so not authentic in that respect. I really want it for schools' work, so it needs to look authentic . I'm thinking of getting a proper shirt, though. The ruff is one of those minimal ones, which I particularly like. I just bought a nice (sharp) rapier for £46, inc. p+p, but it has no belt, so I'm looking for one.

Annis, you'll see from my reply to Lidimy here, that I'm looking for a swordbelt and a shirt and some advice on cloak- and hat-making. I could also use some shoes, hose and accessories like eating kit and pistol or musket. Thanks for the offer of assistance.

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Postby Neibelungen » Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:25 pm

Try Karl Robinson
http://www.karlrobinson.co.uk

for swordbelts and 16th century leatherwork.

Not sure if their illustrated on his site yet, but he does some embroidered and pattern stitched baldricks and swordbelts. Vegetable dyed leathers and alum tanned as well

He's part of the Tudor Group
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Postby John Waller » Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:26 pm

Try http://karlrobinson.co.uk/ for your sword belt.


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Postby Paul Allen » Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:33 pm

Thanks, both, for your suggestion, I'll give Karl a go.

What Tudor Group?

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Postby Annis » Fri Dec 29, 2006 5:52 pm

I'm afraid i can't help you on the sword stuff, not my area, but my friend's dad works on the military pavilion at Kentwell so i could ask him.

Shirts are simple, can be made as a T shape, cloaks are 3/4 circle with a hood, but i doubt upper class tudors had hoods, i dont know, and as for hats, well, Ive made a peasant cow pat hat and that was really stressful! :lol:

Shoes: http://www.pilgrimshoes.co.uk/

Annie the Pedlar does good eating stuff, but again, i think its more peasant, she doesnt do pewter if you know what i mean.

Sorry about the rush, i will go over in more detail if you need it.

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Postby Neibelungen » Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:12 pm

What Tudor Group?


http://www.tudorgroup.co.uk/

Very high standards and quality and heavily orientated towards living history.



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Postby Paul Allen » Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:15 am

Very interesting and useful, thanks! I had a thorough look at the Tudor Group website and found it very impressive.

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Postby lidimy » Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:55 pm

The Tudor Group?? woo, i'll be joining them soon enough if i get my way! i just want to get my gcse's out the way so that i will have more time, then off i'll be. i too was very impressed!

as for a shirt, i think that Sophia (who posts here under that name) makes them, but i'm not sure if she does elizabethan stuff. worth a try though, im sure she'll be happy to assist you either way. or, again, make it yourself. a shirt, IMO, would be a good place to start if you haven't really done much sewing before, as it doesnt need to 'fit' in the strictest sense and so mistakes are easily hidden underneath all the other layers of clothing! again, the Tudor Tailor has a pattern which is very easy to use. they have patterns for an assortment of hats and coifs too.

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Postby Paul Allen » Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:55 pm

lidimy wrote:again, the Tudor Tailor has a pattern which is very easy to use. they have patterns for an assortment of hats and coifs too.

lidi :D


Where can I find that? Is it on the Tudor Group website?

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Postby Paul Allen » Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:58 pm

Thank you, Annis. My God, you're a fast worker!

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Postby Annis » Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:59 pm

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I am fast, I made a stomacher earlier! :lol:


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Postby Nigel » Sun Dec 31, 2006 9:51 am

Tudor group are mega Mark and Ruth are lovely people and very friendly

Standards are very high too which is good

Hats you could do worse that talk to dirt billy in hte states I think he makes some 16th century stuff uses propere felt etc so they actually stand up to wear and weather.

Shirts pm tuppence on here she makes em too to any standard you want Iam biased of course

would also recommend Karl own a rapier hanger of his and it works


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Postby Tuppence » Mon Jan 01, 2007 3:06 am

Shirts pm tuppence on here she makes em too to any standard you want Iam biased of course


he means machined ( :cry: ), hand finished ( :) ) or hand sewn ( :D )!


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Postby Paul Allen » Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:36 pm

Thanks, all. Any suggestions as to where I might get hose?

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Postby Tuppence » Mon Jan 01, 2007 2:25 pm

The Tudor Group?? woo, i'll be joining them soon enough if i get my way!


years more of hand sewn kit :wink: lovely people, and helped me hugely (mark and ruth) when trying to fatho out what some 16th century irish woodcuts actualy showed.

also I love it when ruth gets out the photos of what she's been restoring recently :D

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what kind of hosen???


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Postby Paul Allen » Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:49 am

Tuppence wrote:what kind of hosen???


The kind that are like tights or stockings, not round-hose or trunk-hose.
And a nice shade of yellow, I think.

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Postby Tamsin Lewis » Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:59 am

The kind that are like tights or stockings,...
And a nice shade of yellow,

So are you wooing then?



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Postby Annis » Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:39 pm

Oh, there was someone at the Oyster Fayre in Colchester that sold LOADS of stockings of all different fantastic colours, alhtough a little dear at £4 a pair (mine have lasted about year until they started wearing out)
but I dont know what company it was.

Or alternatively, you could make and dye your own using stockingette (sp?) from Halfords and food colouring.

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Postby Lord High Everything Esle » Tue Jan 02, 2007 1:23 pm

Tamsin Lewis wrote:
The kind that are like tights or stockings,...
And a nice shade of yellow,

So are you wooing then?


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Postby Paul Allen » Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:52 pm

Tamsin Lewis wrote:
The kind that are like tights or stockings,...
And a nice shade of yellow,

So are you wooing then?


No, that was Lidimy. Does yellow hose signify wooing in the sense of courtship? I just wanted them to go with my doublet and trunk-hose, which are in shades of yellow, gold and brown.


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Postby Paul Allen » Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:59 pm

Annis wrote:Oh, there was someone at the Oyster Fayre in Colchester that sold LOADS of stockings of all different fantastic colours, alhtough a little dear at £4 a pair (mine have lasted about year until they started wearing out)
but I dont know what company it was.

Or alternatively, you could make and dye your own using stockingette (sp?) from Halfords and food colouring.

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£4 a pair seems quite reasonable to me ( am I getting soft, I wonder?).
Halfords the car parts people??

Ah, so the yellow hose reference is to Shakespeare and not to actual practice.


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Postby Tamsin Lewis » Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:19 pm

yellow hose does indeed mean courtship - and not just in Shakespeare, there are numerous ballad references too, the most famous of which is 'A merie jest of John Tomson and Jakaman his wife' (licensed 1586) which has the refrain 'give me my yellow hose again, give me my yellow hose, for now my wife she watches me, see yonder where she goes'




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