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Can I be a squire please? :D
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Can I be a squire please?

what? you're volunteering to go near just worn gambies & arming doublets :shock:
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Lol - well, I guess so then!
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sisterwulfe69* wrote:
Apparently, except for knight which I hear comes from the Saxon word (Chnikt?) for servant.
spelt cnight
Huscarl comes from "servant" too- "house carl", and "samurai" means similar, nothing to do with horses like I said earlier.

Squire- much better in the c18/9th where you get to wear tweed, shoot foxes, run up an enormous debt at the pub (cos you own the land it is on) and generally have your wicked way because you are the local JP too,maybe a spot of highway robbery and smuggling as well :)
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No thanks, none of that really has the same appeal!

And I'd more likely be the one fighting the Enclosure act and than instigating it :oops:

Keep the common land! > :o <
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lidimy wrote:Can I be a squire please? :D
You're hired!
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xD
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Now carry my armour. You can clean it as well if you want.
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Sorry, was that meant to make me feel bad about my decision...

Try harder! :twisted:

There is a slight problem though, in as much as I have no idea how to do anything. I can imagine that might be quite a set back.

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I'm not sure you quite appreciate the weight of a rivetted mail shirt. You have to help people get kitted up as well.
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I already know that xD

Why is it so unusual to want to be a Squire? I'm not really understanding....
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Its not that weird.

There are some downfalls is what I'm pointing out.
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Well I guess there must be downfalls to everything :D But if there's a place that needs filling, then I'm ok to fill it in.
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lidimy wrote:There is a slight problem though, in as much as I have no idea how to do anything. I can imagine that might be quite a set back.
Just do what you think is right- if you get shouted at do it differently until you stop getting shouted at- simple (also a lesson for life there if you're feeling cynical :))
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Lol OK then - as long as this process doesn't happen infront of MoPs?!

Or would a mean person deliberatly do it to make the whole thing more authentic? :shock:
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Definatly more authentic.
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Righto... :o

No seriously, if at this stage I was given a Knight (cool!) and told to take off his armour, I wouldn't know where to start! I think some lessons are in order :?

Lidi :D
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lidimy wrote:Can I be a squire please? :D
Matthew could do with a squire.

Q) Is a female squire called a squirelle?

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Wayland2002 wrote:
lidimy wrote:Can I be a squire please? :D
Matthew could do with a squire.

Q) Is a female squire called a squirelle?
I don't know, but -


!!!!! :D:D:D
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lidimy wrote:Righto... :o

No seriously, if at this stage I was given a Knight (cool!) and told to take off his armour, I wouldn't know where to start! I think some lessons are in order :?

Lidi :D
Form an orderly queue lads. No shoving. Duelling can take place later.

What often happens with our lot is that if we are doing circa 1300, the knight takes off his own helmet, undoes the belt round his mail, then does a strange upside down dance to make the mail shirt fall over his head. This is made more difficult by having a beer belly.

If we are doing later 15th century, then what usually happens is they take off their gloves, then take off their helmet. Then someone else has to take off their bevoir, since it fastens at the back. Then the same someone else often has to undo the belt holdin ghteir plate front and back on, then undo their mail skirt, not to mention the arms.

So if you want an easy time as a squire, do earlier not later.

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I'm not bothered about an easier time lol, I just want to do something!
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guthrie wrote:
If we are doing later 15th century, then what usually happens is they take off their gloves, then take off their helmet.
If he's wearing large pauldrons he won't be able to reach his helmet.

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Wayland2002 wrote:
lidimy wrote:Can I be a squire please? :D
Matthew could do with a squire.
Go away - I saw this squire first! Besides the Cub has got Ace Frehley :lol:
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Wayland2002 wrote: If he's wearing large pauldrons he won't be able to reach his helmet.
He's probably going to have trouble fighting properly then.

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Wayland2002 wrote:
lidimy wrote:Can I be a squire please? :D
Matthew could do with a squire.
Go away - I saw this squire first! Besides the Cub has got Ace Frehley :lol:
But she's a similar age to him. You could always have Essel instead.
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Wayland2002 wrote: If he's wearing large pauldrons he won't be able to reach his helmet.
He's probably going to have trouble fighting properly then.
I take it you don't do much 15th century. Most people wearing pauldrons have trouble reaching their mouths let alone above their heads.


But having said that it's still possible to swing a weapon around.

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lidimy wrote:Righto... :o

No seriously, if at this stage I was given a Knight (cool!) and told to take off his armour, I wouldn't know where to start! I think some lessons are in order :?

Lidi :D

If that was said completely innocently you have no hope of surviving a re-enactment.
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[quote="Wayland2002"]
But she's a similar age to him. You could always have Essel instead.
[quote="Wayland2002"]
Ah yes but Lidi's already lined up for a spot helping Sara. The squire bit's a sideline. Do you really think Sara will want Ace Fehley skulking around - unless she can turn him upside down and use him to mop out the churn :wink:
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Wayland2002 wrote:Most people wearing pauldrons have trouble reaching their mouths let alone above their heads.
Reallly? I never had any hassle and my pauldrons were of the "Brian Blessed/Excalibur" school of excess :)

Many of the treatises also have guards specifically for fighting in armour against armour that require you to be able to reach those sorts of postions so you can go for/defend eyeslots and the throat.
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Lol OK then - as long as this process doesn't happen infront of MoPs?!
course it does - makes 'em learn faster :D
I'm not sure you quite appreciate the weight of a rivetted mail shirt
about a 10th of Nige's old butted 6mm hauberk....

....but then that was never a problem for me, I couldn't pick it up.....
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Phil the Grips wrote:
Wayland2002 wrote:Most people wearing pauldrons have trouble reaching their mouths let alone above their heads.
Reallly? I never had any hassle and my pauldrons were of the "Brian Blessed/Excalibur" school of excess :)

Many of the treatises also have guards specifically for fighting in armour against armour that require you to be able to reach those sorts of postions so you can go for/defend eyeslots and the throat.
I think that pretty much everyone I know who uses large pauldrons has problems eating/ drinking while wearing them.

I can reach the top of my helmet wearing mine but I can't lift it off but I can get a sword above my head.

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