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Attaching an aventail to Vervelles

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 1:42 pm
by julesheath
What do people usually use to do this, leather? wire?
Thanks in advance

Re: Attaching an aventail to Vervelles

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:51 pm
by Grymm
I cut a shaped leather strip that went all the way round, missing out the bit above the face 'ole on the bascinet, then stitched the camail/aventail to the leather punched holes in t'leather were the vervelles went then ran a piece of heavyish picture hanging wire through the vervelles which held the leather in place secured the ends by doubling the wire back on itself through, in my case, a cut down lead fishing weight and the top vervelle on each side of the face.

Here's a pic of the old girl now sans camail(Long since turned into a mail collar) but with the leather and wire still in place ... I must get round to chopping it into a footsoldiery/archery pot shape, not that I can be arsed to fight these days...

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Re: Attaching an aventail to Vervelles

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:11 pm
by julesheath
Thanks, I'll see if I can get hold of some brass wire.

Re: Attaching an aventail to Vervelles

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:00 pm
by Mark Griffin
the originals seem to have twisted,plaited or braided wire. leather would snap like an Italian generals resolve in the face of a lightly armed 3 year old and you need it fail safe, hence the many strands.

Re: Attaching an aventail to Vervelles

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:35 pm
by Errent Knight
I've just replaced the wire and leather on mine. I used brass wire that I twisted together with a hand drill. It's worked quite well.

Re: Attaching an aventail to Vervelles

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:41 pm
by Mark Griffin
Interesting lappets, based on anything in particular?

Re: Attaching an aventail to Vervelles

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:28 pm
by Errent Knight
Not based on one thing, no. There was a little bit of artistic license taken. I got the general idea from various effigies on these sites.

http://www.themcs.org/armour/14th%20cen ... armour.htm

http://effigiesandbrasses.com

The actual attatchment came about through a combination of what I could make myself and a desire to make them easily removable.

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