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Sourcing a medieval Anvil

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:03 pm
by latheaxe
Looking for an anvil round about a medium size so it can be on-off loaded by one or people at shows.. :D :D

Re: Anvil Wanted

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:48 pm
by The Iron Dwarf
I have got a nice little peter wright forged anvil and you are not having it ( itss my preciousss ).
I do make some but they are not authentic at all ( but they work ok ) and are light enough and cheap :thumbup:

Re: Anvil Wanted

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:53 pm
by Thomas Hayman
Have a look on Ebay, they pop up all the time.

Re: Anvil Wanted

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:19 am
by Mark Griffin
depends what you want it for of course. Medieval anvils look a tad different to modern ones. Which is what turns up on ebay...

Re: Anvil Wanted

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:38 pm
by latheaxe
Would you know where i would aquire such an article Mr Griffin????

Re: Anvil Wanted

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:56 pm
by abaddon1974
If you are after a medieval one have a chat to Andy K.
I think that his is a correct medieval pattern and he had it made to his own spec.

Craig

Re: Anvil Wanted

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:22 am
by The Iron Dwarf
I supplied Mr Griffin with one shaped like a medieval anvil a while back

Re: Anvil Wanted

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:52 am
by Mark Griffin
Mr Dwarf is correct. But we both know it was a very good cheat! Aside from getting one made at probably an extraordinary cost, you have a variety of options. Bear in mind that there was no such thing (although I'd be very happy to be proved wrong) as a 'travelling' armourer. I'm less sure about blacksmiths but a sooty man wandering the highways and byways with a basket of tools and stock doesn't seem to ring any bells with me either.

Therefore a modern anvil with bick, steps, hardy hole etc is not the thing. You need a big flat surface of metal and something you can put lots of stakes into. Plenty of pictures of armourers at work show this, plus more romantic pics of blacksmiths and farriers from later periods. What I leapt upon from the Iron Dwarf selection of nice things was a 15lb stage weight that, when inverted, and stuck in a log, is a perfect match for the shape and size of such a thing. Dave obviously also supplies stakes and again a couple of staples in a log will serve to secure these.

If you want a one item does all anvil and are not too worried about the absolute accuracy then look for a tinkers anvil. Now they did travel about and so have a lightweight anvile with a variety of shapes and surfaces to do the fiddly work they got up to.

Hope that helps.

There are armourers anvils in the Met, Musee d'Armee and I think Port de Hal in Brussles, after that Charles Ffoulkes shows a few pics. Not that you have said you are doing armouring of course but not many people want to sit there making nails. Once you have your anvilthen you will need to get your tools sorted, another thread methinks! :-)

Re: Anvil Wanted

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:51 pm
by latheaxe
Thanks for that Griff..As usual a fountain of knowledge..Have you any pics of the one Anvil and stage weight you had made...Next thing to consider is the mechanism of the bellows, i luckily obtained a small forge! :D :D :D

Re: Anvil Wanted

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:56 pm
by Mark Griffin
will try and get a pic for you friday, I'm away from base at moment. Its sitting on a log but with no recess cut as yet but you will get the idea

Re: Anvil Wanted

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:58 pm
by Mark Griffin
Dave can advise you but bellows come up all the time on ebay. You just have to get one that doesn't need restoration work as thats a pain. I got a lovely victorian double action one and its grrat. Try and get a set-up where you can pull on it rather than using your feet, much better imho.

Re: Anvil Wanted

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:09 pm
by latheaxe
Thanks for that!! regarding bellows i was kind of thinking of building a set up something like this with maybe one bellow???
http://www.britishblades.com/forums/sho ... orge/page2 (Sroll Down)

Re: Anvil Wanted

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:15 pm
by Mark Griffin
all look very sensible. It does depend on what you want to do with it though.

Re: Anvil Wanted

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:44 pm
by The Iron Dwarf
I could fabricate a look a like anvil that would work and look like an earlier anvil and it would not cost a huge amount, someone here sent me a link recently to a very nice armourers anvil.

I already make some anvils that though they dont look like a proper one work quite well.

you want a lump anvil?
find a pic and give me an idea of the sizes you want and I will see what I can do.

I may have a go at recreating an old anvil by my own means when I get time and inclination

Re: Anvil Wanted

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:25 pm
by latheaxe
Could you send me a piccy Mr Dwarf along with an idea of prices???... :D

Re: Anvil Wanted

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:46 am
by The Iron Dwarf
Mr G will post a pic of the cheapest and easiest sort, a 56 lb weight with no hole in the bottom and plain tapering sides and no handle visible when upside down ( a few of them look reasonable ).
alternatively I can make or obtain almost any shape you want, the more material and work needed the more it will cost, I can easily form shapes in thick metal and then put the shapes together and make the welds vanish if you want.
the result will be usable but not as good as a brand new one of a modern type costing maybe £1000 but would prob cost no more than 10% of that depends on what YOU want

Re: Anvil Wanted

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:18 am
by latheaxe
I will send you some links tonight!! :D :D

Re: Anvil Wanted

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:37 am
by Mark Griffin
Here we go. Its not set in its log properly yet (and that will need a band round it) so the face will be lower by about 2" but its a good impression of a 'medieval' anvil as you see in pics of such. As I said before it does very much depend on what you want to do with it. Different anvils for different tasks and eras.

Re: Sourcing a medieval Anvil

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 11:45 am
by jerrzey
Sounds real easy! What could possibly go wrong? :wasntme: :drunk:

Re: Anvil Wanted

Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 1:00 pm
by Colin Middleton
Mark Griffin wrote:Bear in mind that there was no such thing (although I'd be very happy to be proved wrong) as a 'travelling' armourer.
I beleive that the Howard Accounts show him hiring an armourer every now and then to come and refurbish armour for him and his men. IIRC, the guys turns up with an assistant for about 2 weeks, before going off again (presumably home). My guess is that he's using a workshop on site (Howard's blacksmith perhaps) and just bringing a few specialist tools with him.