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Wrapped sword belt

Postby Tod » Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:04 am

Some where I saw some pictures of how to make a wrapped sword belt, it may have been a few years ago but was on a site some where.
Can any one point me in the right direction?



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Postby Medicus Matt » Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:18 am

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Postby Medicus Matt » Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:47 am

Terminology check.....

By 'wrapped sword belt', do you mean one of these like wot I make?
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Postby Tod » Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:10 am

No the type that has a belt that wraps around the scabbard with a sort of flat knot.



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Postby Medicus Matt » Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:26 am

Tod wrote:No the type that has a belt that wraps around the scabbard with a sort of flat knot.


Ahh, I know the type.

hang on a mo.....

Like this?
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Postby Tod » Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:54 am

Yep another drink I owe you.



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Postby Colin Middleton » Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:20 pm

I think that you can claim a drink of KIBS too, there have been a couple of us trying to work out how to tie that knot!


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Postby Medicus Matt » Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:45 pm

You can all club together and buy me something nice....a decent bottle of Barolo perhaps?

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Postby Tod » Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:55 pm

There was me thinking I could off load some of this Norwegian stuff I got given. Or that bottle of Grappa at the back of the cupboard.



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Postby Medicus Matt » Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:05 pm

Tod wrote:There was me thinking I could off load some of this Norwegian stuff I got given.


If it's Aquavit then I've got a bottle in the fridge that's been there at least 4 years.


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Postby Tod » Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:17 pm

Its got ship on the label, it crossed the equator or the like.



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Postby Benedict » Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:09 am

As this isn't a style of belt-fixing I've seen before, could anyone give an idea of where/when it was in use? I'm quite tempted to have a go myself.

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Postby Medicus Matt » Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:20 am

Benedict wrote:As this isn't a style of belt-fixing I've seen before, could anyone give an idea of where/when it was in use? I'm quite tempted to have a go myself.

Thanks!


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Not sure what the overall period it runs through.
Definately used in the 15th C, not seen anything like it used before. Popular with Italians apparently.


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Postby Colin Middleton » Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:02 pm

I think that it tends to be seen on longer swords, which need to be held at quite an angle.


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Postby Colin Middleton » Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:13 pm

Medicus Matt wrote:You can all club together and buy me something nice....a decent bottle of Barolo perhaps?

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It's just occured to me that I've never knowingly met you! How can I find you to buy you a drink? Will you be at any Fed shows?


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Postby WorkMonkey » Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:34 pm

My girlfriend refers to him as the "hobo man" from when she saw him at Torm. I think he's cut his hair now though, with the great coat all he'd have needed was the bottle of whiskey and the unhinged temperment.


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Postby Phil the Grips » Sat Jul 25, 2009 6:03 pm

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Postby Carl / Sir Geoffrey » Sun Jul 26, 2009 6:33 pm

Hi Matt

I sent you a PM a couple of days of go. Please can you confirm that you received it OK?

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Postby Sir Thomas Hylton » Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:07 am

Although a couple of steps in the photo's slightly unclear at the moment I really do like that solution of attatching a scabbard. Will pick up a really long belt at next event where I can find economically priced belts & have a go at it.



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Postby CeDeBe » Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:04 am

I cheated when I did this (yes, yes, sorry, sorry) I recycled an old rein from a bridle and did two of these knots on my long sword. It worked very nicely though! B^D

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Postby Medicus Matt » Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:07 pm

Carl / Sir Geoffrey wrote:Hi Matt

I sent you a PM a couple of days of go. Please can you confirm that you received it OK?

Cheers

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Sorry Carl, been in darkest Norfolk for a couple of days. Have PM'd you.


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Postby Medicus Matt » Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:09 pm

WorkMonkey wrote:My girlfriend refers to him as the "hobo man" from when she saw him at Torm. I think he's cut his hair now though, with the great coat all he'd have needed was the bottle of whiskey and the unhinged temperment.


:lol:

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Postby Medicus Matt » Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:10 pm

Colin Middleton wrote:
It's just occured to me that I've never knowingly met you! How can I find you to buy you a drink?


I'll find YOU.

Heheheh...


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Postby Colin Middleton » Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:39 pm

Sir Thomas, be aware that you need to use a strip of leather thinner than normal belt leather, or you'll struggle to tye the knots.

Also, IIRC, you start the strip on your belt (one of these knots), then take it down to the scabard, tye a knot like this, take it back up to your belt to form a loop and then back down to the scabard for another of these knots to suspend it at the right angle.


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Postby Colin Middleton » Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:43 pm

Medicus Matt wrote:
I'll find YOU.

Heheheh...


Well, if you let me know which event, I'll try to have something nice handy for you to drink 8)

Besw wishes


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Postby Sir Thomas Hylton » Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:15 pm

Colin Middleton wrote:Sir Thomas, be aware that you need to use a strip of leather thinner than normal belt leather, or you'll struggle to tye the knots.

Also, IIRC, you start the strip on your belt (one of these knots), then take it down to the scabard, tye a knot like this, take it back up to your belt to form a loop and then back down to the scabard for another of these knots to suspend it at the right angle.


Ah... Right, okay. Think I'm getting the idea, but know I will have to see this for myself for it to become crystal clear.

Cheers Colin.




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