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Armour WOTR

Postby zauberdachs » Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:56 pm

Ok, a quick question for the knowledgeable out there.

I'm reading through "The Medieval Soldier in the WOTR" by Andrew Boardman (ISBN 0750914653). On page 140 he discusses the goods of John de Vere, Earl of Oxford upon his death, these include:

"175 Sallets, 101 Brigandines, 77 pairs of splints, 16 corsets, 84 pairs of maille gussets, 18 gorgets, 24 aprons of mail, 120 halberd, 140 bills and 120 bows."

What is a corset in the context?


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Postby guthrie » Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:12 pm

A maille shirt?



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Postby zauberdachs » Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:24 pm

guthrie wrote:A maille shirt?


Wrong.

No seriously I've no idea but please don't guess. I can guess too all by myself.


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Postby Nigel » Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:42 pm

probabaly a back and breast palte as a set a corslett


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Postby Phil the Grips » Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:32 pm

Would have to second the corselet answer- "back and breast" plate would fit in with the mail gussets, bevors, hats and arm harness in the same context and show difference from the brigs present too to give a consistent "half armour".


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Postby zauberdachs » Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:03 am

Makes sense, thanks.


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Postby Nigel » Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:32 pm

and with the weighted argument of Messers walton an Grips who is going toa rgue ?


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Postby Colin Middleton » Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:04 pm

For that matter, what is an "apron of mail"?


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Postby Phil the Grips » Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:16 pm

Likely a mail skirt


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Postby behanner » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:26 pm

I'm not sure that is correct because in the Parliament rolls you find "in maner of werre, that is to witte, with curays, corsettes, speres, jakkes, salettes..."



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Postby Ben Rodgers » Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:12 pm

Corslet
Also spelled corselet. A light half-armour popular in the sixteenth century for general military use (for example, town guards). It consisted of a gorget, breast, back and tassets, full arms and gauntlets; the term can also be applied to the cuirass only.

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Postby Colin Middleton » Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:59 pm

I have an impression of it being quite a general term for metal armour for the torso. They might have listed curays AND corsettes to stop people from trying to claim that it's not the one forbidden.


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