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Medieval magic

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:18 pm
by Adam the flatulent
I have been mucking about with some modern close-up magic and want to start playing with some authenic sleights and tricks does anybody know any good info or know of any good references??

Cheers

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Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:56 pm
by Jim
Talk to Devilstick Peat!

Actually maybe not, he might not want to divulge his secrets, after all they are his livelihood.

But he is a member of some Jester Association type thing, which is a bit like the Magic Circle, unless I am mistaken (probably).

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:01 pm
by Adam the flatulent
Thanks jim, any other help is much appciated!!!

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:01 pm
by the real lord duvet
surely medieval magicians would all have been immediately killed as witches?

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:03 pm
by Adam the flatulent
Probably,

Jim, do you know how i can contact him??

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:10 pm
by Jim
Adam the flatulent wrote:Probably,

Jim, do you know how i can contact him??
He's at a lot of our shows (and I think he'll be at Tewkesbury), and is on Facebook. Other than that, no... Try some Googling?

Re: Medieval magic

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:01 pm
by Karen Larsdatter

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:38 pm
by Adam the flatulent
your a star thank you :)

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:14 pm
by guthrie
Theres also that heironymous bosch painting, which shows a magician doing some sort of "which cup is it under" trick.

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:53 pm
by craig1459
guthrie wrote:Theres also that heironymous bosch painting, which shows a magician doing some sort of "which cup is it under" trick.
Image

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:55 pm
by gregory23b
Also note what is happening to the Guthrie-esque chap bending over.

Also look at Wolfegg hausbuch, some interesting pics of performers etc.

Re: Medieval magic

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:13 pm
by Fair Lady Aside
You might also want to see Historical Magic: A Primer and History and Magic in the Middle Ages by Richard Kieckhefer (here's a book review), but Samuel Rid is probably one of the best sources for a solid description of how things were actually done.
Thing to remember about both of Richard Kieckhefer's works is that they deal with magic in the ritual or craft sense in the Middle Ages and not slight of hand or "tricks" aspect.

There are some nice photographs of a German spell book in "Rites and Rituals". They are definitely worth having on the shelf but I think are outside the scope this thread.

Medieval magic

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:47 pm
by Montsegur
Apart from Devilstick there is also Ye Amazing Bagshot (Dave Moylan) who works/worked at Warwick Castle and is a medieval magician.

Both are appearing at Lanark next month.....