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by Dathi
Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:33 am
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52622

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

This one ?
by Dathi
Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:52 am
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52622

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

So it's entirely possible that the buffcoats seen worn by Foot Officers are the same quality and thickness of buff as those worn by Horse? It's just that the way buff is prepared today makes the buff stiffer and less prone to the soft draping effect we see in surviving examples and in paintings, all...
by Dathi
Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:12 pm
Forum: Costumes
Topic: Wambuis van 'zwartsaaijen' in the Rijkmusuem
Replies: 10
Views: 2466

Re: Wambuis van 'zwartsaaijen' in the Rijkmusuem

The blurb has been translated for us on Facebook and goes "Provenanced as having once belonged to Trienke Boerma (a woman's name) who died in 1680 or 1688. The rest is illegible, but possibly means first recorded in 1780 as an item in an inventory. Its made of linen and silk, short length, thre...
by Dathi
Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:45 pm
Forum: Costumes
Topic: Wambuis van 'zwartsaaijen' in the Rijkmusuem
Replies: 10
Views: 2466

Re: Wambuis van 'zwartsaaijen' in the Rijkmusuem

The lining looks interesring, somewhat like toweling that's worn down a bit. The gores at the bottom of the body puzzled me, it made me think of the linen ladies'jacketsfrom earlier in the 17th century. Google Translate gives:- "The doublet is part of a costume, see for pants: BK-NM-5525 (not f...
by Dathi
Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:35 pm
Forum: Costumes
Topic: Wambuis van 'zwartsaaijen' in the Rijkmusuem
Replies: 10
Views: 2466

Wambuis van 'zwartsaaijen' in the Rijkmusuem

Found this in the online Rijkmusuem collection that looks interesting

http://www.rijksmuseum.nl/collectie/zoe ... 73&lang=nl

Google transscrambler says that this is a man's coat from 1680 ?

Any thoughts ?
by Dathi
Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:54 am
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52622

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

Tripped over this on the web First the portrait http://www.rijksmuseum.nl/collectie/zoeken/asset.jsp?id=SK-A-569&lang=en second the buff coat http://www.rijksmuseum.nl/collectie/zoeken/asset.jsp?id=NG-NM-1100&lang=en supposedly the leren kolder is that worn by Hendrick Casimir I Odd things p...
by Dathi
Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:36 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52622

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

Thanks for that. The Dutch schuttersstuk and the kortegaard genre were a very specific genre aimed on at the men who commissioned the schutterstuck and bought the kortegaard painting. They largely knew exactly what they were looking at and would expect a degree of accuracy. Given that, it's possible...
by Dathi
Mon Feb 07, 2011 6:45 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52622

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

Just out of interest. How thick is a buff coat ? By that I mean a Cavalry style buff coat ? I'm interested as I don't think that the fashionable buffcoats seen on officer types in European paintings are going to be as thick as something intended to be sword proof and capable of absorbing pistol shot
by Dathi
Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:46 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52622

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

Tod wrote:Now that is nice, I have just the leather for it. 8-)


Tempting... :D
by Dathi
Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:40 am
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52622

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

I'd hope it wasn't 3mm-5mm thick...!

But it's nice to see a leather doublet being worn, as well as that lovely soft shade of pink...... :D
by Dathi
Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:47 am
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52622

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

Speaking of leather I tripped across this picture http://en.gallerix.ru/album/National-Gallery-London-6/pic/glrx-2015521989 Apart from the shocking pink outfit on the left, there's something interesting about the doublet on the right hand dueler. Have a look as I'm slightly puzzled by it. There's a ...
by Dathi
Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:01 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: 1618-1648 sword or rapier hanger
Replies: 77
Views: 20723

Re: 1618-1648 sword or rapier hanger

Hanger/Baldric is I think influenced by what you wear. Have a look at this image http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Bartholomeus_van_der_Helst,_Banquet_of_the_Amsterdam_Civic_Guard_in_Celebration_of_the_Peace_of_M%C3%BCnster.jpg All the fashionable men from 1648 have baldrics. Their ...
by Dathi
Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:55 pm
Forum: 1485-1603
Topic: The Image of Irelande, by John Derrick (1581) - Plates
Replies: 7
Views: 4170

Re: The Image of Irelande, by John Derrick (1581) - Plates

This might interest you

http://wiki.umd.edu/psidney/index.php?title=Plate_24

The London Trained band at the Funeral of Sir Phillip Sydney in 1587
by Dathi
Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:43 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: 1618-1648 sword or rapier hanger
Replies: 77
Views: 20723

Re: 1618-1648 sword or rapier hanger

Joolz, Andy R. I think we have have a tendancy to believe that the whole of the Civil War period was fought in some splendid isolation from Europe and forget just how much experience British Gentry had in fighting in Europe. See Swordsmen: The Martial Ethos in the Three Kingdoms by Roger Manning fo...
by Dathi
Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:41 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: 1618-1648 sword or rapier hanger
Replies: 77
Views: 20723

Re: 1618-1648 sword or rapier hanger

Joolz, Andy R. I think we have have a tendancy to believe that the whole of the Civil War period was fought in some splendid isolation from Europe and forget just how much experience British Gentry had in fighting in Europe. See Swordsmen: The Martial Ethos in the Three Kingdoms by Roger Manning for...
by Dathi
Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:57 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: 1618-1648 sword or rapier hanger
Replies: 77
Views: 20723

Re: 1618-1648 sword or rapier hanger

There's a status thing as well....Posy urban middle-class militia...Think Artillery Garden & it's Dutch shooting club equvalents....Doesn't mean it's right for a normal field army? Steve A fair few turn up in paintings from Sebastian Vrancx's paintings of Military scenes and in paintings from t...
by Dathi
Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:25 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: 1618-1648 sword or rapier hanger
Replies: 77
Views: 20723

Re: 1618-1648 sword or rapier hanger

I just remembered this one

http://www.costumeantique.de/data/kostu ... terior.jpg for the link


That looks like a sleeved buffcoat with open sleeves and a lining.

Any thoughts ?
by Dathi
Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:54 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: 1618-1648 sword or rapier hanger
Replies: 77
Views: 20723

Re: 1618-1648 sword or rapier hanger

That's an interesting painting as it shows both types of sword wear in user and that central figure has every sin the book there. A Musketer with a buff coats AND bucket top boots...:-) Having traveled across dozens of pictures thro the 1600 to 1650 period across Europe the sleeveless buffcoat appea...
by Dathi
Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:01 pm
Forum: 1100-1500
Topic: cloth
Replies: 5
Views: 2047

Re: cloth

by Dathi
Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:36 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: "Push of Pike" quotes
Replies: 13
Views: 6051

Re: "Push of Pike" quotes

Speaking of push of pike. I tripped over this painting by Pieter Post from about the mid 1630's. Seems charge for horse was used for real.
by Dathi
Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:15 am
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: 30 years war
Replies: 8
Views: 3034

Re: 30 years war

Try here for Fairfax It's mostly right but it does show that it would be posible to sketch an outline that includes service in Europe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Fai ... of_Cameron
by Dathi
Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:19 am
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: The wearing of sashes
Replies: 1
Views: 1926

Re: The wearing of sashes

The extra long sashe, as modelled by Algernon Percy, 10th Earl of Northumberland in a painting by Anthony van Dyck. I've also come across a painting showing the sashe wrapped around the neck and then over the right shoulder to the left hip and I'm aware of one familiy tombstone in Salisibury that sh...
by Dathi
Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:50 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: The wearing of sashes
Replies: 1
Views: 1926

The wearing of sashes

This is just to gather evidence of how sashes were worn by officers across Europe from about 1600 to 1650 -ish There appears to be 3 methods worn, with a few variants seen. 1) Around the waist. The knot is at the back. Seen across the whole of Europe The bulk of images show the wearer in armour of b...
by Dathi
Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:20 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: Hose/Gaiters
Replies: 28
Views: 6355

Re: Hose/Gaiters

steve stanley wrote:Another point which may affect the 'bagginess' is the general lack of proper garters to support hose..The fictional 'tunneled leg-tie' being predominant.......



Too damm true, I've yet to see any breeches that show signs of being tied via ribbons threaded thro the knee.
by Dathi
Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:17 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: Hose/Gaiters
Replies: 28
Views: 6355

Re: Hose/Gaiters

I think the laces are to tighten the fit.

I can see a good, close, fit with linen, worsted or silk cloth cut hose. I just can't see kersey hose, made in large numbers in limited sizes, being anywhere near as close a fit
by Dathi
Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:07 am
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: Hose/Gaiters
Replies: 28
Views: 6355

Re: Hose/Gaiters

IF cut cloth ones today were actually cut so they weren't quite so baggy,I'd quite agree...........Oh,and made long enough for non-dwarves........... :) I think there's 3 issues here 1) material used to make the hose 2) Cut and fitting of the hose 3) Our perception of what's right in terms of fit
by Dathi
Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:45 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: Hose/Gaiters
Replies: 28
Views: 6355

Re: Hose/Gaiters

If you want to go the NUG(Normally,usually,generally) route,just get knitted ones in the thickest wool you can comfortably wear.....If they get wet,change for the spare pair you should carry....If they get holed,darn them with your sewing kit............I'm not saying gaiter-ish things didn't exist...
by Dathi
Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:50 am
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: Hose/Gaiters
Replies: 28
Views: 6355

Re: Hose/Gaiters

The big problem for us is there is not one single painting that shows English troops in any great detail. There are some woodcuts, a few stained glass images and a Ducth painting that was thought to show English Troops but now is thought to be Dutch troops. Head to Europe and there is a whole genre ...
by Dathi
Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:18 am
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: Hose/Gaiters
Replies: 28
Views: 6355

Re: Hose/Gaiters

From a French painting by one of the Le Nain brothers dated 1642 http://www.londonfoodfilmfiesta.co.uk/IMAGES~1/Lenain1_small.jpg By Pieter Snayers http://media.photobucket.com/image/snayers/Dstaberg/TYW/Pre%2520War%2520paintings%2520by%2520Vrancx%2520and%2520Snayers/SoldiersathaltinForrestbySVrancx...
by Dathi
Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:23 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: foxes brushes, rabbit skins hanging from baldrics
Replies: 6
Views: 3716

Re: foxes brushes, rabbit skins hanging from baldrics

I think I've twigged where this comes from. Durer's The Knight, Death and the Devil shows a German knight from anout 1513-14. Wrapped around the head of the lance is a Fox tail Colour picture here http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1f8qaegCiyU/S9Q8lqttYgI/AAAAAAAABlQ/8UESotgwyAI/s1600/D%C3%BCrer_Reiter_1495....

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