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by Dathi
Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:21 am
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52584

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

We forget just how mobile what we would call mercenary troops were and quite willing to move from army to army without a care. And just how many people, not just officers, travelled to various wars. Let's not forget that a considerable number of English, Welsh, Irish and Scots fought overseas, just ...
by Dathi
Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:13 am
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52584

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

Appears to be one with dark bands in the a painting "Civic Guardsmen from the Company of Captain Jacob Pieterszn Hooghkamer and Lieutenant Pieter Jacobszn van Rijn, 1628" from Dutch sources. All the other schutterij paintings from the same time frame seem to show silver or gold bands. Oddl...
by Dathi
Sat Mar 24, 2012 1:45 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52584

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

Spotted this in the painting "Maaltijd van zeventien schutters van de Handboogdoelen onder kapitein Geurt van Beuningen 1613"

Look at the thickness in that shoulder :D
by Dathi
Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:42 am
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52584

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

Dutch Schuttji paintings are full of buffcoats from 1610- ish to the 1650's Try "Maaltijd van zeventien schutters van de Handboogdoelen onder kapitein Geurt van Beuningen 1613" for starters to "Officers and men of the Company of captain Cornelis de Graeff and lieutenant Hendrick Lauwr...
by Dathi
Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:33 pm
Forum: 1485-1603
Topic: Tudor drums
Replies: 12
Views: 4975

Re: Tudor drums

Fife and drums for 1585

http://terpconnect.umd.edu/~mquillig/Si ... 567_39.jpg

Little later but not a bad image :-)
by Dathi
Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:26 pm
Forum: 1485-1603
Topic: Ensigns
Replies: 8
Views: 3861

Re: Ensigns

Finally home so I can hunt down this image http://terpconnect.umd.edu/~mquillig/Sidney/crop/50/askb008567_15.jpg Ensign on the far left. Looks like there are stars on the ensign along with a cross in a darker colour. Thro I can't tell if it's St.Andrew or St.George althogh St.George is more likely T...
by Dathi
Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:36 pm
Forum: 1485-1603
Topic: Ensigns
Replies: 8
Views: 3861

Re: Ensigns

To add a few details. The letter is from Lord Willoughby to Walsingham and is dated October 24th 1587 and the info comes from a Drummer serving under Lord Willoughby who had been detained at the Spainish camp at Tornhoult. Sir William Stanley had been placed in command of the garrison at Deventer wi...
by Dathi
Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:30 am
Forum: 1485-1603
Topic: Ensigns
Replies: 8
Views: 3861

Ensigns

Spotted by pure chance this quote "He confidently affirmeth that Sir William Stanley, with his five watchet ensigns and his whole regiment is come to Turnhoult ; that he see them come marching in, knowing Sir William Stanley well, for that he was his drum in Ireland. He ascertaineth me also tha...
by Dathi
Fri Dec 23, 2011 6:23 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52584

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

Foxe

That Smythe quote interests me, I need to find a copy of his book to read but its a sod to find a repro.
by Dathi
Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:32 am
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52584

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

Found something interesting by chance in Calendar of State Papers Domestic: Elizabeth, 1595-97 on page 135 from November 1595. I'll quote in full "Computation [by Sir H. Cock] that farmerly the cost of furnishing a caliver, &c. was 27s.; 20s. 6d. for a bow; total, 47s. 6d.; 36s. for a corsl...
by Dathi
Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:24 am
Forum: 1485-1603
Topic: Elizabethan or Jacobean groups
Replies: 19
Views: 16409

Re: Elizabethan or Jacobean groups

I'd seriously skip a young gentleman for that length of time. You're looking at at least 4 completly different suits to cover 40 years of not too fashionable young gentleman. Double that if you want to remain fashionable every step of the way........ Try this picture for 1569 http://upload.wikimedia...
by Dathi
Thu May 26, 2011 3:58 pm
Forum: 1485-1603
Topic: Camouflage coats for troops in Ireland, 1584
Replies: 3
Views: 2838

Re: Camouflage coats for troops in Ireland, 1584

The Justices of the Peace in Berkshire received orders in May 1582 from the Privy Council to levy men for service in Ireland . The order stated that the men were to be provided "…with coates of some darke and sadd colour, as russett or such like, and not of so light colour as blewe and redd, wc...
by Dathi
Mon May 23, 2011 1:18 pm
Forum: General History
Topic: Tentage images
Replies: 16
Views: 5182

Re: Tentage images

by Dathi
Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:51 am
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: Close helmet
Replies: 6
Views: 2775

Re: Close helmet

This is where I get a little confused. As far as I know a falling buffe is part of the 16th Century garniture that turns a burgonet into a closed face helmet. Whilst a Close Helmet is one the terms used to describe a full faced helmet used by cuirassier in the 17th Century. I'm not aware of any part...
by Dathi
Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:11 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52584

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

Just had a quick look through my collection of Dutch Schutterji pictures and so far the earlist dated pictures showing a buffcoat is 1603, with 2 or 3 men wearing buffcoats over clothing.
by Dathi
Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:12 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52584

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

Don't forget that 1642 is the year that a Sargeant in Essex's army wrote to friends in London that he had had a new soldiers suit made for him with a "little silver and gold lace" A Sargeant in the 17th Century is mostly certainly not the same as in the 18th, 19th or 20th Century, his stat...
by Dathi
Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:40 pm
Forum: 1485-1603
Topic: Advice on Elizabethan low status outfit
Replies: 5
Views: 2863

Re: Advice on Elizabethan low status outfit

I forgot this gentleman

http://www.aidan-campbell.co.uk/textiles.htm for russets

fabrics at http://www.aidan-campbell.co.uk/PDFs/Ti ... letter.pdf

Tudor Tailor at http://www.tudortailor.com/ is also a good source of patterns
by Dathi
Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:53 pm
Forum: 1485-1603
Topic: Advice on Elizabethan low status outfit
Replies: 5
Views: 2863

Re: Advice on Elizabethan low status outfit

http://inacentaur.com/hamletblog/2007/11/27/simple-dress-non-gentry/ will help...:-) Materials. Doublet of linen canvas or fustians, maybe leather. Jerkin of leather or frieze or rugge for warmth or protection from brambles Hose from kersey or or russet fabric. Coat or gown of frieze or rugge for wa...
by Dathi
Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:11 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52584

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

Dathi: What was the date of that please? Steenie: Quite agree. Some surviving items (eg the 'cross flap fronted' buffcoat in the NAM) would be, I would have thought, unsuitable for mounted use. Sorry, thought I put that in ! It's post Tilbury in 1588 and deals with masses of letters and the paperwo...
by Dathi
Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:05 am
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52584

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

Chris T There's a reference in the Manuscripts of the Right Honourable F.J.SAVILE FOLJAMBE on page 61 to a "bufierkin" listed in the arms and armour lost from the Foot band under the command of a Captain Wrothe from Essex. It's listed with one coat, 1 musket and a sword and dagger. It's im...
by Dathi
Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:00 am
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: Late 1600's Portable Forge
Replies: 15
Views: 7048

Re: Late 1600's Portable Forge

Au contraire.

Armies, of which there are a few few wandering around Europe, tend to have lots of things that need blacksmiths to repair and shoe. Which means either sticking very close to a suitable base or taking the blacksmith(s) with you.
by Dathi
Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:48 am
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52584

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

Chris T, the Wallace buffcoat was interesting because it's french, listed as actually made from deer skin and the skirts have an amazing drape to them, the armpit holes look to be completely finished with no signs of any attachements or stitched in sleeves and there doesn't appear to have any lining...
by Dathi
Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:40 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52584

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

Just found this on the Wallace Collection website http://wallacelive.wallacecollection.org/eMuseumPlus?service=direct/1/ResultLightboxView/result.t1.collection_lightbox.$TspTitleImageLink.link&sp=10&sp=Scollection&sp=SfieldValue&sp=0&sp=2&sp=2&sp=Slightbox_3x4&sp=0&am...
by Dathi
Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:40 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52584

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

It is a bit odd that buff coat. I can't see someone wanting to ride wearing that, as that apron will be a right pain. Walking/marching may be easier if the buff is lot more supple than we expect from modern buff.
by Dathi
Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:20 am
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52584

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

Speaking of Infantry buffcoats I tripped over a reference in Imperial Armies of the Thirty Years' War vol.1 relating to the purchase of arms and armour from Wurzburg for a regiment of Foot. Enough equipment was bought to arm a regiment of 3,000 men, with 1,500 muskets, 300 caliver, 200 halberds, 1,0...
by Dathi
Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:27 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52584

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

Steenie Looks good to me. Found this one on the Metropolitan Museum of Art website http://www.metmuseum.org/works_of_art/collection_database/arms_and_armor/buff_coat_mounted_with_armor_151131_5/objectview.aspx?page=1&sort=6&sortdir=asc&keyword=buff&fp=1&dd1=4&dd2=0&vw=1&a...
by Dathi
Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:58 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52584

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

Anyone know where I can get some good Elk/deer skin then..?
by Dathi
Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:07 am
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52584

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

So if I want to create a best quality buffcoat I need to find Elk/Deer skins of the right thickness......?
by Dathi
Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:57 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52584

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

Steenie Arming doublets started dropping out of use in the mid to late 16th Century for what could be called munition armour. Sir John Smythe complained in 1588 that “…..and because that no man can coveniently and fitly be armed, unless he be first apparrelled for his armour and also for the use of ...
by Dathi
Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:56 pm
Forum: 1603-1715
Topic: ECW Infantry Buff Coat
Replies: 137
Views: 52584

Re: ECW Infantry Buff Coat

So you'd suggest the white bandmans buff as being closer to the correct look and feel ? The RA website has most of the Littlecote Buffcoats as about 1650. Interestingly I found this picture http://collections.royalarmouries.org/image.php?i=567333&r=2&t=4&x=1 all from the collection. Look...

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