Medicus Matt wrote:Skevmeister wrote:Bloody atheists are a pain in the *rse. .
No, zealots of any form are a pain in the *rse, regardless of their faith or lack of it.
Skevmeister wrote:I have to say John; I have to vigorously disagree. With a policy of inclusion, it would not be wrong a Muslim Cleric to lead a prayer as well if requested. But considering that esepcially in Bideford they put it to a vote, and he lost teh vote. Thsi flys completely in teh face of democarcy. The councillors where asked; the majority spoke and said they where happy with it and it had been tradition in teh chamber for many years.
Bloody atheists are a pain in the ****. Fine don't belive but shut the hell up telling the people who do belive in something that they are wrong or just stupid.
Sophia wrote:Also as a person of another faith I can tell you that it is extremely uncomfortable to be forced to be part of an act of faith which you do not wish to be part of. By including the act of prayer in the formal business of the council they are making attendance compulsory.
The Iron Dwarf wrote:believe what you want, worship who or what you want but dont preach to me or try to force me to believe
Foxe wrote:I guess you both missed Captain Reech's post then, in which it was pointed out that the pre-meeting "prayers" a: were not always prayers, and b: were not compulsory?
Foxe wrote:The ruling means that one man is free to practice his atheism at work but others are not free to practice their Christianity.
Senilis Pravus wrote:Firstly - it's a waste of money taking this to court.
Senilis Pravus wrote:Thirdly, this is a long standing tradition in many councils. How much longer are we going to allow the forces of Politcal Correctness erode the long-standing and valuable traditions of our country?
Dave B wrote:Senilis Pravus wrote:Firstly - it's a waste of money taking this to court.
I don't agree. Personally I wouldn't care either way onthe prayers thing. I'm agnostic and god - I can take him or leave him. But if you believe something is wrong and unfair then you should stand up and fight it. Its a waste of time the amount of attention this little storm in a teacup has had though.Senilis Pravus wrote:Thirdly, this is a long standing tradition in many councils. How much longer are we going to allow the forces of Politcal Correctness erode the long-standing and valuable traditions of our country?
Don't really agree with that either. There are plenty of longstanding traditions (like not giving women the vote, or locking the mentally deficient up to rot) which we are glad to see the back of. Just because something is traditional doesn't make it right.
Its a rubbish tradition. Like someone said back up the thread a way, how about they stop worrying about chatting to god on work time and concentrate on getting the bins emptied and the roads fixed.
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