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Postby Cap-a-pie » Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:46 pm

Hi there

Came across this recently in my brothers back garden in Somerset, can't quite make out the text on the coin (think it says Treble Gilt Orange). Its plain on the front and looks like it has been set into a surround.

Wonder if anyone can shed some light on this.

Cheers in advance

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Re: Button Found

Postby Attilla the Bun » Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:46 am

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Re: Button Found

Postby Neibelungen » Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:21 am

Treble gilt was used in the early to late 19th century to distinguish the quality of gilding on the front of the button. You find similar marks such as double gilt and extra gilt. There's not any standards to them as such, merely a indication that they used more material and hence more gold in fire gilding them.

The type you've got is a single face or open back style, which means its made much like a medal, rather than closed back, where they insert another piece to carry the button shank. That style runs from the very late 18th right through even to today, but was a popular manufacturing method on liverybuttons of the victorian and edwardian period.

The crown's possible a style of makers mark, but without a specific makers label it's difficult to date them with any accuracy.
Possibly Hammond, Turner and Sons who made sporting (hunt and livery) buttons in the 1840's and 50's are are known to have used a crown on some of their backmarks.
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Re: Button Found

Postby Neibelungen » Thu Apr 01, 2010 2:25 am

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Could also be the back plate for a 2 piece button as well, having lost it's front. Hard to tell without a front view, but if it's plain that's more likely. Coining dies for buttons (single piece) take more force than a 2 piece as your squashing the metal rather than deforming it.
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Re: Button Found

Postby Cap-a-pie » Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:07 pm

thanks both of you for the pointers, the front is blank although as you say it may very well have worn off. But at least my curiosity has been eased, having never seen anything like that before. The buildings in the surrounding area date back to the early 1800s and has been a farming area since then. It is certainly very well worn. So far this is the only thing he has found.

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