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Warning: AA cover for vans

Postby Mark Griffin » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:31 am

I expect many people have got cover from the AA and also have vans they use to move kit about. Until recently that's not been a problem. They have come and sorted out issues with my Merc Sprinters, V'hall Vivaros etc BUT a friend and fellow historical professional was recently treated very poorly with much inconvenience and cost to himself.

There is a clause in the small print in the AA contract that says LGV vehicles over a certain length, mainly LWB types, are only attended to at the AA's discretion as they class them as commercial vehicles. The membership for a commercial body is over £1k so that's a bit of a difference. It seems that dispatchers have now been told that the clause is now going to be enforced so I'd urge people to read the small print lest your groups kit is left stranded because of even a minor fault unless you cough up.

No idea about the RAC or green Flag etc.
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Re: Warning: AA cover for vans

Postby Bucket » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:19 pm

Its the same problem with the RAC, which i found out recently, so i have now changed cover. For any one whos interested i ow use a company called "The Rescus Company". I've called them out a couple of times and i've had a really good service from them.
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Re: Warning: AA cover for vans

Postby Victim » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:04 pm

Any idea when the RAC invoked this ? I've been with them for years but the last call out to the Tranny was July last year - on the way to Kelmarsh, as it happens.
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Re: Warning: AA cover for vans

Postby squamatus » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:15 pm

I have an Iveco Daily 29L9 - the smallest one - 3.2 tonnes GVW. My insurance is with Commercial Vehicle Direct and includes breakdown cover. I can't fault them in this or any other service, they are always spot on. The only downside is that every year at renewal I have to "Go Compare" to get a decent price, which they will then match! They only give breakdown cover for vans up to 14 years old. (I have 2 years in which to upgrade to a newer model!) Worth considering them, I'd say. I use my can for business, but I think they cover noN-commercial use too.
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Re: Warning: AA cover for vans

Postby Mark Griffin » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:18 pm

My chums encounter was mid April. It seems to be for the longer vehicles so a swb tranny might be ok.
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Re: Warning: AA cover for vans

Postby Jackie Phillips » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:22 pm

Mark Griffin wrote: The membership for a commercial body is over £1k


As a member of the NMTF, my commercial AA policy cost less than £100 per year for the top level of cover.
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Re: Warning: AA cover for vans

Postby Mark Griffin » Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:27 pm

Sounds like a mighty sensible plan!
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Re: Warning: AA cover for vans

Postby latheaxe » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:24 pm

I dont see how the AA can sell a policy to someone knowing they have a LWB van and then will not attend if needed.This would mean the AA are knowingly selling policies that are useless to the recipient which I am sure is illegal.Is there more to this story ?? maybe he was pulling a trailer as well when he broke down or he didnt tell them he had changed vehicle??.I have looked at my policy and can find nothing in the small print.. :wink:
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Re: Warning: AA cover for vans

Postby Mark Griffin » Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:34 pm

The AA policy doesn't cover a specific vehicle, it covers the policyholder who can ask them to attend any vehicle, even a friends. Or you'd have to keep notifyng them of what vehicles you were intending to drive.

He was just in his van, nothing else.
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Re: Warning: AA cover for vans

Postby acecat999 » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:39 pm

green flag / caravan club cover

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If your caravan cannot be towed, we'll still recover it (Roadside and Recovery, Premium UK).
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Re: Warning: AA cover for vans

Postby Vic James » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:04 pm

The person was in a LWB Transit with a tow bar but not towing ,,`caugh out ` by a 18ft lenght rule which is in the small print
but he had not seen it and had been paying for a policy that didn`t cover his vehicle for years . Two other re enactors found
the same problem when they checked ,, I had my cover Docs for TRS with me and they are ok up to 21ft . Which is why
Bucket and Danny and [ maybe] the person in question are now with TRS .
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Re: Warning: AA cover for vans

Postby GazB » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:16 pm

As an owner/driver of a long wheel base high top transit van, with a tow bar and often when going to events towing a trailer with AA breakdown cover I just phoned them to check this out.

The standard roadside recovery DOES cover you for a LWB transit van as long as the laden weight does not exceed 3.5 tonnes, like wise no problems if you are towing a trailer but again the combined laden weight of van and trailer does not exceed 3.5 tonnes. There is no length restriction either.

Hope this clears things up !
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Re: Warning: AA cover for vans

Postby Mark Griffin » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:19 pm

Not really, as I've just done the same thing and the 18ft rule as in the policy details does apply. When they feel like it it seems....
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Re: Warning: AA cover for vans

Postby Mark Griffin » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:19 pm

and how at the roadside they can tell what your laden weight is is anyones guess.....
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Postby Dave1971 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:40 pm

Our AA commercial fleet policy doesn't cover the person it is restricted to a particular vehicle and our mwb transit has been recovered twice in the last year without a problem.
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Re: Warning: AA cover for vans

Postby Mark Griffin » Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:44 pm

Yes, because you have a commercial fleet policy. Thats not the issue. Its a 'normal' roadside or domestic policy that's the issue
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Re: Warning: AA cover for vans

Postby latheaxe » Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:52 pm

Mark Griffin wrote:The AA policy doesn't cover a specific vehicle, it covers the policyholder who can ask them to attend any vehicle, even a friends. Or you'd have to keep notifyng them of what vehicles you were intending to drive.

He was just in his van, nothing else.



When I took my policy out with the AA they asked for my van details even though the policy is to the person and not the vehicle..
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Re: Warning: AA cover for vans

Postby purple peril » Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:54 pm

Would not touch the AA for anything, ever again.
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Re: Warning: AA cover for vans

Postby acecat999 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:10 pm

they have the rule about 3.5 tonnes because their recovery trucks have to stay within their GTW. obviously. having been recovered when towing it took Green flag a while to find something that could carry the range rover and tow the caravan. almost ended up with 2 trucks.

getting a feck off big tow truck out costs more. getting 2 trucks costs even more especially recovery these days.
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